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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

But the head count was going up. At a point when £35 million of savings had been allocated in the budget, the head count was increasing. Mr McGeorge, what do you think of the decisions to continue to recruit more and more people?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

The finance team. Who would have been responsible for it at that stage?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Sorry—I meant to say “July 2024”; we are not quite at July 2025 yet. I think the principal would still be saying that now, however, if he had not been caught.

I turn to the issue of the cash position; we might come back to the recruitment side. The Gillies report directly identifies the huge amounts of on-going expenditure. In our evidence session today, you have said that the finance team was underresourced. Instead, you had a massive expansion in the number of academics. Did you not make the case that your finance function needed more resource to ensure that you had a resilient organisation, whereas you were employing hundreds of additional academics?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Did you not make the case to say that there was underresourcing of that capacity, of which we have seen clear evidence today?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

You did not. However, you were on the UEG, and you continued to sanction massive expenditure across the whole organisation.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

When did you take that advice?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

At the meeting of court on 12 November, a note was issued to say, please—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Were you surprised when it turned out that it had been spent?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Dr McGeorge, how do you react to that? Your director of finance thought—or just assumed, perhaps—that you would know that from an examination of the accounts. What was your reaction when you found out that £40 million had gone and that you had spent it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Sorry, Dr McGeorge, but you were in charge of the departments that actually ran those projects. The director of estates reported to you at that point. No money was going out of there that you were not responsible for. Did you just think that there was an infinite pot of money?