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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Michael Marra

Returning to the mental health services side, I want to use that as an illustration of the Government’s inability to meet those broader targets. We have had report after report, including from yourselves, on such services, and the Government just seems to be unable to actually deliver change. What is the dysfunction that is resulting in that, when you tell us that that is the one factor that the Government identifies that it can use to control its massive budget black hole?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Michael Marra

So, you do not see that directly in the documents; you are describing what might be called an absence. Have you any sense, from the Government’s other work, that it understands that this is a problem, or do you feel that it is pushing the problem away for political convenience?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Michael Marra

I will maybe come back to the spending side of it. You also mentioned that such decisions would be supported by

“a more detailed assessment of the potential impact and timescales”

on taxation. Could you tell us a little more about what you mean by that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Michael Marra

Auditor General, your report says:

“The Scottish Government, through its fiscal publications, has not done enough to explain why the potential funds raised from tax policy are so notably different from the net contribution to the Scottish Budget, and how it intends to address this.”

Why do you think that is?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Michael Marra

I suppose a fairly typical criticism of Governments in general, and their approach to taxation in particular, is that they are often more interested in the harvest rather than in growth in the first place. They use tax to plug the gap in their spending plans rather than thinking about how it might support the sustainability of the sector.

Liz Smith touched on issues about opportunity in certain areas and on thinking about the future. From the Government’s documentation, and the work that it has carried out, have you a sense that it is sensitive to the impact that its own tax measures might have on the performance of sectors in Scotland that might be weaker?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Michael Marra

A lot of your work is on the broad sustainability of not just public services but public finances. Your report identifies that there is a strategic balance to be struck between decisions on tax growth and those on spending, to make sure that we have the best outcomes.

I will address the first point, on the tax side. You highlight that a 1 percentage point increase in the top rate would result in only £5 million of benefit, but also that the Government has decided not to make any changes to bands within that area. Has the Government boxed itself into a policy position there? Has it given sufficient justification for the trade-offs around that position?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

In your answers to the convener, you said that you did not want to make any promises that you cannot keep. However, 1 April was the statutory deadline that you were set, and you pushed that back to 31 October. In July, you said that you would keep that statutory deadline but that some work would continue until 31 December. On 1 October, you said that some parts of that will be finished in 2026 and others in 2027. You have been making promises that you cannot keep for a long time, have you not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

In the gap between 1 April and July, you went from saying, essentially, that it could be completed by October to saying, “Actually, this is going to run on significantly longer than that”. What kind of conversations were you having with your colleagues when you made one statement and then, a few weeks later, you had to completely change that timeframe?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

That makes it incredibly difficult for somebody to plan for their retirement. They will be thinking, “Do I have enough money to have the life that I want for myself and my family?” They have to have made the decision and they have a six-month timeline before you tell them how much of their own money they are getting back. Is that the case?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

So people will just have to continue dealing with the situation because of the weight of the McCloud remedy on the organisation.

You identified underinvestment in the information technology systems as part of the problem. Are you comparing that with the rest of the UK? Are you comparing it with private providers?