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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Michael Marra

I hear that. Linda, are you aware of any substantive work that is going on in this area?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Michael Marra

I make the same appeal to Stephen McGhee and Linda O’Neill. If you have information on individual positive experiences, it would be good if you could provide it to the committee. We are seeing a negative picture here, understandably.

My final question follows on from that. The figures so far on school absences since the pandemic show a large variation from the pre-pandemic figures, with clear changes in behaviours coming through. Issues of self-isolation and so on obviously work into that. Importantly, there is an increase in unexplained persistent absence across Scotland. Do you have an indication, through your work, of whether there is a relationship to ASN or care-experienced pupils in that grouping? Is there anything on that in the research or from the discussions that you have had? On the rise in unexplained absences, the figure looks like one in 100 children in Scotland, which is a significant number of people. Is there any correlation that you can identify?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Michael Marra

I find parts of the written evidence that we received deeply concerning. For example, we read:

“the post-lockdown effects might be reasonably predicted as profound.”

Another comment is:

“Feedback from our members points to the fact that the Covid-19 pandemic has had an incredibly damaging impact ... widening the educational attainment gap.”

However, a lot of it feels quite anecdotal to me. It refers to verbal discussions. Are you aware of any substantive research to determine the actual effects of the pandemic that will enable us, as politicians and policy makers, to assess the scale of the challenge and what response is required?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Michael Marra

Mr Dornan’s criticism of the EIS for advocating for education resource is pretty ill founded—particularly in the area that we are discussing. The statistics that the convener laid out, and the evidence that we have seen and the testimony that we have heard, show that there has been a marked decrease in resource in respect of teachers who are facing children who have additional support needs. The Morgan review specifically excluded a resource assessment, but my understanding is that its recommendations have been accepted by all political parties.

We are coming out of the pandemic, but last week someone from the EIS told me that they still feel that we are in a crisis situation rather than in recovery. Will delivering on the Morgan review recommendations be more challenging post-pandemic than it previously was?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Michael Marra

Mention has been made of the importance of the role of respite services in allowing people to continue to access educational experiences. I have constituents who are concerned about the lack of remobilisation of respite services in Dundee, for which Covid continues to be used as a justification. You will understand the frustration that they feel when they see people in nightclubs and pubs. Is that experience shared across the country or is it specific to my constituents?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Michael Marra

Do you have any insight on that, Stephen?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Michael Marra

That is useful.

I want to ask about data. I was interested in your points on the annual student surveys that are carried out in other jurisdictions and countries. What kind of data do we require in Scottish education to monitor effectively the reform process? Is there sufficient data?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Michael Marra

I was going to alight on the word “recognition”, which probably takes me to my next point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Michael Marra

I will be—sorry. I am talking about the culture of recognition as it pertains to universities. For some learners, the next stage in their journey will be going to university, which is a kind of recognition. I am worried about the assessment methodology and whether it is replicated in universities. Essentially, learning the trick of doing an exam at secondary school prepares somebody to do it at the next stage. Do we have to have a certain amount of that to prepare our young people for the next stage, or is there sufficient culture change in higher education to allow us to accommodate that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Michael Marra

It strikes me that, if there is an opportunity to solve that problem or at least to do something about it through the process of reform, that opportunity must be grasped. The Education and Skills Committee in the previous parliamentary session concluded that something had to be done on the issue, and nothing has been done. There is a confluence of resourcing issues, but I think that your analysis is that it is a structural issue as well as a resourcing one. Is that your conclusion?