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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Deputy Convener

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Michael Marra

I thank the committee for my appointment. I look forward to working with you all. As deputy convener, I will chair the rest of the meeting in the convener’s absence.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Michael Marra

Earlier, I touched on a point about the financial sustainability of cross-border placements. The bill seeks to further regulate those placements. Do the provisions go far enough in terms of ensuring the welfare of those vulnerable children?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Michael Marra

Thanks, Meg. Kate, would you like to come in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Michael Marra

The basis of your desire to end cross-border placements is about maintaining the right to a family life—is that correct?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Michael Marra

But that is not ending cross-border placements, which was your original position.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Michael Marra

It is projected that the bill will result in a potential increase in referrals into secure care. Do we have capacity in the secure care system to meet those referrals? I put that question to Kevin Northcott.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Michael Marra

The previous panel expressed real concern about that. Its expert opinion was that it is sometimes necessary or advantageous to put children at a distance from some of the negative influences on them, which gives them a chance to have a restart and a reset. Could you reflect on some of that evidence?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Michael Marra

What we have heard from St Mary’s Kenmure and the Good Shepherd Centre indicates that they are reliant on the higher-level cross-border fees to pay for Scottish children. Is the panel concerned about the sustainability of those organisations? I see Chloe Riddell nodding, but what about the other panellists?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Michael Marra

Do we have sufficient surge capacity? There is a policy in place regarding the last bed, under which a place is reserved to deal with issues that colleagues have mentioned to do with the results in court or in the children’s hearings system on a particular day. Are we retaining that policy? Is it helpful?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Michael Marra

The Good Shepherd Centre said in evidence to the committee that, at points, the Scottish need for secure care has dropped dramatically

“in the face of English Authorities desperate to find a secure care placement which can meet the needs of their young person.”

However, it also said that Scotland has been turning to England “to ensure sustainability”. Should the committee be concerned about that?