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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

The budget was approved based on a 25 per cent reduction, despite the fact that there were external warning signs.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Why did you think that it was time to step down?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

My final question is about the general issue of the hubris that I think underpins a university that does fantastic things. A group of people at the top of that institution bet the house on rapid and extended growth in the face of all the evidence. Who do you think is most responsible for the culture of hubris that Professor Gillies identified?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

We have covered that ground.

Mr Fotheringham, who do you think was responsible at the top of the institution for the culture of hubris that now threatens the employment of 3,000 people?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Given the nature of the discussions that we have had today regarding your conduct in office, and given the report that has been commissioned by the Scottish Funding Council, which details, as the convener set out, the very considerable weight given to your conduct, did you leave on grounds of gross negligence?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Is there an agreement between you and the university, to which you are a signatory? Do you understand why this is a reasonable line of questioning, given all that has gone before?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Not rapidly enough—but we will come back to that.

There is a mismatch between the fragility of the university’s finances, which you have both described during the evidence session as a long-term structural problem, and betting the house—the whole thing—on growth. The people who are now paying the price are the at least 300 people, and potentially many more, who are losing their jobs en masse. Was that not a catastrophic bet that was placed by you as the chief operating officer, as well as by the finance director and the principal?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

That was subsequent, but the public warnings from Universities UK and others were made prior to that, were they not?

I had a direct conversation with Professor Shane O’Neill, who told me that there was a perception within the university executive group that, for some reason, Dundee would buck the trend and would be different from other universities that were experiencing large collapses in recruitment. Is it not the case that you just thought that, for some reason, Dundee university would be different?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

That strategic bet was a massive failure on the part of all three of you and the rest of the executive, was it not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

You were responsible for the budgeting of professional services in the institution, on both the expenditure side and the savings side. Am I right?