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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

It has become not even annual. In the past three years, we have had emergency in-year budget statements halfway through the year, or less than halfway through the year, when the budget has had to be reset.

I am struck by the evidence that you have both presented that, despite the external environment—including the OBR, which we have just heard from, and the SFC—producing more material about the long term and long-term trajectories, the Scottish Government’s process is becoming increasingly short term. It is month to month or week to week, rather than decade to decade. Is that a fair critique, based on the evidence that you have given us?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

That is a private conversation with the Government. Okay. That is useful.

The stated policy of the Scottish Government at the moment is to pursue full fiscal autonomy. Has the Scottish Government had any conversations with the OBR as to what the process would look like?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

My last question is about the spending review that is on-going across the UK. The departmental budgets have been laid out in the UK Government’s budget, and those departments are now being asked to decide policy priorities within that funding. Is there any reason why the Scottish Government should not be conducting a spending review along the same lines now?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

When it comes to those kinds of events and externalities, even if we set aside certain things about which the Government cannot decide what it wants to do—indeed, which it seems unable to make a decision about—it could at least, with regard to the core assumptions, underlying need and so on, set out the agenda for what is required, given the country’s demographic shape, the likely tax base and where we are headed. Given that there are always going to be events, elections and so on, we might just never publish the document.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

I will start where you finished, convener. A senior civil servant described to me how they spend approximately 60 per cent of their time fighting for the budget that was set in the previous December and the other 40 per cent answering freedom of information requests. That 60 per cent is an opportunity cost of not having long-term security about budgets, is it not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

A lot of this is about the local politics. As the convener described, we are getting another programme for government in a couple of weeks, which has been brought forward by a period of months. You have given evidence about the interaction between the MTFS, the programme for government and the national performance framework—I think that that was in David Bell’s submission—and the lack of coherence across any of those documents and how they hang together. The First Minister has set out no reason other than politics for what he wants to do. It is not about good governance.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Would your organisation be concerned about recommendations to change the fiscal rules to carry more debt?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

You have touched on this a little bit already, but could you say what you think the consequences are of the fiscal rules not being met by the Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Do you model any potential consequences of changes to those policies?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Okay. You mentioned that a fairly significant change to the fiscal rules was made after the election in the autumn budget. Do you think that it would have been realistic to see another set of fiscal rules at the time of the spring statement?