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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Youth Parliament Equalities and Human Rights Committee

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Yes, of course. There was overwhelming support from the Scottish Youth Parliament for the ESOL support motion, with 94 per cent of its members agreeing to the motion. The motion was on classes being available for every school and college across Scotland. Should there be geographical differences between urban and rural areas in the roll-out of ESOL support? Should all of Scotland be getting the same ESOL support, or should there be geographical differences depending on where the support is needed?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Youth Parliament Equalities and Human Rights Committee

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you very much for your response.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, panel, and thank you for your opening statements and the information that you have provided on the matter.

The minority ethnic employment gap is growing, and unemployment is higher for minority ethnic women in particular. What do you think that the problem is there? Does the Scottish Government’s anti-racist employment strategy go far enough in tackling the issue?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Jatin or Danny, is there anything that either of you would like to add?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you, convener.

We invited a variety of witnesses to today’s meeting, representing different minority ethnic groups. Would you say that the policy development distinguishes between different minority ethnic groups? I will give an example. What works for a Sikh woman is likely to be different from what works for a Gypsy Traveller woman. I am curious about whether that distinction is being made enough. Do you think that a one-size-fits-all approach to creating policies should be taken?

Danny Boyle, you talked about the Sikh Sanjog funding disappearing. I was notified about that last week—it is very disappointing. What a Sikh woman needs is very different from what a Muslim woman, a Gypsy Traveller woman, a Chinese woman or a Jewish woman needs. They are all different. That is what I see, given my background and the fact that I represent many women here. How do you feel about that, Danny? Should policy development distinguish between different ethnic minorities?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

You talked about facing racism every hour, Pervin. I have spoken to people about that and I come from an Asian background. Racism is there and people sometimes ignore it. We are parliamentarians and this is a committee. The Scottish Government will be listening as well. What more can we do to stop racism? How can we build trust with the criminal justice system and the Scottish Government so that people, whether they are refugees, asylum seekers or born here, can come and speak to us about it? It is not acceptable in the 21st century.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

It is similar, but it is a slightly different subject.

Pinar Aksu, I saw the protests that you mentioned on television. I was not there, but it was terrifying to watch some of the words that came out of people’s mouths. That is happening in Scotland. I was born here, and I would think it disgusting if that happened to me or to anybody else around me. My question is on hate crime. Recent hate crime statistics reveal that racism is the most commonly reported hate crime, but there is a lack of data collection on race, particularly in criminal justice. Why do you think that is, and what effect, if any, do you think that that has on the ability to tackle racist hate crime?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I have a question about what you just said. You and Jatin Haria talked about how there is not enough implementation, and you have just spoken about how mentoring is one of the actions that could be taken. Is that being done by the Government or by third sector organisations, or are you asking for mentoring for those females so that they can get jobs and be understood and flexible?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning. I welcome languages week.

There are no versions of the equality and fairer Scotland budget statement in other languages, so many communities and individuals will be unable to see for themselves whether the Scottish Government is delivering on priority areas. Have you done any community outreach work, initiatives or engagement with communities in languages other than English?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I would welcome your looking at that because, obviously, Scotland is so diverse, with many people from different countries. Not everybody can speak the English language, and it is important that the Scottish Parliament sets an example of being accessible to all, including those who do not speak English or understand how budget setting is done.