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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you. Would Jonathan Carr-West or Donna Hall like to say anything?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you. Does Donna Hall want to come in?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, panel. Quite a lot of my question has been answered, but I feel that I owe it to the local authorities to ask it nonetheless. I have been lucky enough to have spoken to more than half of the chief execs of the 32 local authorities, and they have clearly said that one of the primary principles of the Verity house agreement was violated less than four months after the agreement was made. The First Minister failed to consult or even inform councils of the council tax freeze. In essence, the agreement fell at the first hurdle. Those were their words and it is also what a lot of people are saying—as I am hearing from you today as well.

Do witnesses think that the role of local government and central Government will change, or was the agreement simply empty words? I want also to go back to the issue of behaviours: what behaviours should change, or should have happened from the beginning? I put my question to Professor Jim Gallagher.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you. Before I move to Jonathan Carr-West, I will come back to you, Professor Gallagher. You talk about a set of procedures to be followed. One can easily put down on paper a set of procedures and one can easily sign that, as with the Verity house agreement, but how does one make sure that someone complies? Will penalties be put in? Are you aware of any such frameworks or policies having been used before? It is important to know how we make sure that this is followed. If the Scottish Government were to break the agreement again, who will be liable and who will be responsible? I know that these are heavy words, but we do not want just words. How can we help firm it up a little bit more?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Earlier, we were speaking about ring fencing. We have heard from more than half of the local authorities, which have spoken about issues around ring fencing time and again. The Verity house agreement envisages a fiscal framework with a presumption against ring fencing. Is it likely that that approach can be delivered, particularly when ring fencing continues to be emphasised in relation to areas such as teacher numbers—an area that most of the local authorities chose to highlight? Obviously, they welcome the removal of ring fencing so that they can make decisions locally. However, they are talking about teacher numbers and other areas where ring fencing might not be removed. What is your view on ring fencing in that regard?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Before I ask the same question of Professor Hall and Professor Gallagher, do you believe that completely removing ring fencing would open up more doors? I am hearing from you that innovation plays a role in how services can be delivered more efficiently and effectively, and, probably, more in line with today’s technology.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, panel. The UK Government has so far provided the Scottish Government with £97 million to identify and remove dangerous cladding from buildings. However, so far, less than £5 million has been spent through the single building assessment programme. What actions is the Scottish Government undertaking to speed up that process?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland: “Annual Report 2022-23”

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Considering the highly divisive and frequently personal discussions that are currently taking place, when does a disagreement turn into disrespect? Does the code of conduct explicitly state what conduct on social media is and is not acceptable? What kind of training on that subject have the commissioner and his office given to council members?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland: “Annual Report 2022-23”

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you.

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Do you envisage any problems ahead? You have said that you are on a trajectory where basically things are getting better, but do you foresee any problems in spending more money?