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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Civil Legal Aid Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you. Aaliya, do you want to add anything?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Civil Legal Aid Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

It is good that you have mentioned that, because I know that, in BAME backgrounds, jewellery and some other property would not be thought of in that context. Have you had many cases in which that situation has arisen? I have spoken to people in a lot of those communities in connection with a bill that I am working on, and they tell me that they face barriers in relation to not only financial areas but other areas, too. One size does not fit all with regard to access to services.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Civil Legal Aid Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Another issue is that black, Asian and minority ethnic women face additional barriers, as sometimes the relevant authorities find it difficult to understand the cultural context of their cases. What is being done to ensure that those women, many of whom are extremely vulnerable, are looked after and receive the support that they deserve?

You mentioned the requirement for financial information, which could be a big issue. In many BAME communities, it is often the male—the husband—not the female who holds all the financial information. That affects the issue of the eligibility requirements, too. Also, when somebody from a BAME background goes through this process, the setting is different. You have to consider the cultural aspect and also the person’s community—you are dealing not just with the person’s partner or family but with their wider community. Can you shed some light on what could be done there?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Civil Legal Aid Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you for that. I have a couple of supplementary questions. The Scottish Women’s Rights Centre has highlighted the issue of access to civil protection orders for survivors of domestic abuse. It says that, often, the burden of accessing legal protection falls on survivors, who must access civil legal assistance or pay privately to do so. What is being done to ensure that those women, many of whom are extremely vulnerable, receive the support that they deserve?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you, Cat—I am very pleased about that because that has not happened in the past. Those groups have spoken about that. To be honest, when evidence is taken, whether it is in this committee or whether it comes to you as the Scottish Government, it is important that we hear from everybody to make sure that we are implementing things in the right way.

There is a balance, but those organisations have not been heard in the past, so I am really pleased with what you have said. If that does not happen, I will be writing to the minister to ensure that we include those groups.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I do not think that it will.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

My question is just on the back of what the minister said.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I have two supplementaries, following on from Tess White’s questions.

Minister, the recent decisions by the UK Supreme Court in London and by the Court of Session in Edinburgh have made it clear that women and girls need to be protected. Single-sex spaces and services are vital for their protection, yet all too often the Scottish Government has put gender ideology above the rights of women and girls. Will the Scottish Government be implementing the EHRC’s interim update on the practical implications of the UK Supreme Court judgment?

Also, do you not think that, the longer that you wait, the more that you are not only putting women and girls at risk, but leaving public bodies liable in cases such as the Sandie Peggie case? You have updated us a little bit on that matter, but I am concerned about what happens while we wait. People are being affected every day. Women and girls are not protected at this moment, even though the judgment has been issued. Will you clarify what you are doing now, while you are waiting for certain things to come through?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you. Convener, I have one more question, which touches on budgeting. Can I ask that quickly?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

In the past, you have spoken to the committee about ensuring that, when we implement something, every department understands what the budget is for, whether that is for women and girls, for people in poverty or for disability, and that they make sure that it is aligned throughout every department. At that time, it was said that there were gaps for some issues. I want to ensure that we do not face the same situation when the EHRC guidance comes and that we make sure that it is implemented right through each department.