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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 December 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning. Dr Carr-West, from the survey that you carried out with local authorities, you mentioned that the picture in Scotland is very bleak on local government finances. Could you suggest any possible next steps to improve the financial sustainability of councils in Scotland? How can potential financial risks be mitigated?

It would be great to hear from Abdool, too, about any experience that he has seen somewhere else.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Can I just probe a bit more into that? Obviously, you have seen how councils in England work; in a past life, I worked with local authorities in England. Have you seen any good practice in relation to shared resources, such as software systems? My colleague Miles Briggs mentioned the sharing of bin services. I do not know whether local enterprise partnerships are still around, but they worked together—in the southeast and other areas—to look at where savings could be made and how development and services could be better delivered. Do you have any good practice examples of councils having saved money by sharing resources and working together?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Dr Carr-West mentioned that, in the survey that you carried out with local authorities, councils highlighted workforce challenges. How can pay deals be managed more sustainably and strategically, given that employment costs form around 70 per cent of the employment budget?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I will go on to my next question. Given that the Scottish Government obviously agrees with the pay uplift recommendations—you have said that it is a good report—how would you see the requirement for £4.6 million being met? Is the Scottish Government suggesting that individual councils would find that money? I know, because I have spoken to 31 of the 32 council chief executives, that it is clear that they are struggling right now to meet essential spend. We also heard in the evidence earlier today that there will be fewer people out there now making decisions in councils. It could mean that, but it could also impact services, because services may have to be cut if local authorities have to find that money.

Last but not least, I would say—especially being a person from a minority ethnic background—that we will not attract key representation from people from disabled backgrounds and people from minority ethnic backgrounds but also, very importantly, women. We have heard today from SLARC and COSLA that there are barriers for women to come into the profession and salary is one of those. Would you like to say a little bit about that? Also, you mentioned that it is not just salary that is a barrier and that there may be other things involved. It would be good to hear from you about that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Martin McElroy has just mentioned that he could see that Government officials were not attending and relationships were changing. Did any of you voice that to the cabinet secretary? Was anything written or emailed to say, “You are not attending”?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning. I thank the witnesses for their opening statements.

The cost of the pay uplift for ordinary councillors would be around £2 million and the cost of increasing pay for senior councillors would be around £2.6 million, which is a total of £4.6 million. Could COSLA provide more details on how it sees that being funded? Angela Leitch touched on the thinking behind its being in the Government’s settlement. Jane O’Donnell mentioned that that was stressed many times to the cabinet secretary. You said that you met 28 times as a committee, is that right?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I want to get some more detail on the issue. Were any promises made at the time? Did you feel that the money was going to be in the settlement and was that stressed to the cabinet secretary? What were the responses? Can you give a bit more detail on how this will be funded?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I echo the point that representation of communities is important. I was one of the first women of colour to come in to the Parliament, along with Kaukab Stewart, and was the first Indian woman. It took a long time—until 2021—for that to happen. It is important that we spread that through our councils to ensure that they represent communities in the right way, with the right people as councillors, so I absolutely agree with you.

If the Scottish Government refuses the request to pay for the SLARC recommendations, is it COSLA’s view that regulations should not be introduced early next year? I know that we have talked a little about timings.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, cabinet secretary, and good morning, Fiona.

It is clear that SLARC was set up as a joint review by COSLA and the Scottish Government. That was echoed earlier by the COSLA chief executive, Jane O’Donnell. Also mentioned in the evidence session was that the relationship between COSLA and the Scottish Government started positively but that, as time went on, especially around April, attendance by Scottish Government officials fell, especially around the time when the council tax freeze came in, with relationships worsening. Therefore, could the cabinet secretary explain why the Scottish Government is now saying that it is up to local government to fund the salary changes for councillors, which account for a total of £4.6 million, when it started with a joint partnership between the Scottish Government and COSLA?