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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
I said in my opening statement that there would have to be additional resources. At no point in part 1 am I saying that the police or authorities would have to work off the budgets that they have. There will have to be additional resources, and I have made that clear in my financial memorandum.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
I will bring in my colleague Charlie Pound on technical issues.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
No. I engaged with Dr Emma Forbes from the Crown Office, but I did not ask that question.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
I do not accept that it could retraumatise victims.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
You have put three points to me. I will pass the first two to Charlie Pound, but I will take the final point, which was about MAPPA not being designed for domestic abuse. When the Scottish Government was working to create the Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Act 2023, it specified that those subject to notification requirements under the Sexual Offences Act 2003 could not be released early via regulations. The Government also included domestic abuse offenders in that list, using the same definition that we have included in the bill, so I absolutely reject the idea that MAPPA is not designed for that.
Even though we do not have statistics, we have also heard that MAPPA already covers some of that stuff, but that it is not written into statute. To be honest, there is a lack of accurate data, which we asked the minister about. MAPPA was made for sex offenders, but it has moved on and it covers a lot of other things, although those are not covered by statute and it does not say that those things have to be covered. That is why, as I said in one of my earlier answers, it is important that we add domestic abuse. MAPPA deals with sex offenders, serious offenders and the risk to public health, and I would like to add domestic abuse offenders to that list.
I hand over to my colleague Charlie Pound to respond to your first two points.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
As I mentioned earlier, I believe that the issue is very clear. The public purse is spending £7 billion over a three-year period, and I am asking for only 0.5 per cent of the justice budget for this work. It will help, and it will bring down costs, but I am not saying that it is cheap. As I have said, the bill, especially part 1, comes with a cost.
The other areas that I have highlighted in my answers to questions and in my opening remarks do not involve significant costs—that should be made clear. The majority of the cost will be down to the register.
I ask Roz Thomson and Charlie Pound whether there is anything to add from the financial side.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
I am not saying that there is no evidence base for it.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
I do not have the balance sheet. You are probing at something, but I am making it very clear. To make it even clearer: I am not in Government so I cannot answer your question, because I do not have the balance sheet that shows where every penny is spent, whether that is on bad projects or good projects—I have no idea. I will say that the cost is only 0.5 per cent of the budget. Right now, the Government is spending £7 billion over three years, which is a lot of money. There you go: if you wanted me to say where the money would come from, that is a saving.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
I will bring in Charlie Pound to answer the technical point.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Dr Pam Gosal MBE
No, I did not directly look at that aspect. However, I spoke to survivors and victims, and they felt that my bill was the right thing to do. If somebody has committed that crime, we need to ensure that the right punishment and monitoring are in place—which, to be honest, would be the case with any bill.
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