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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Paul O'Kane

The point about the Equality Act 2010 is interesting, and the interaction between the bill and the 2010 act will be relevant. It would be interesting to get your view on that, Stephanie. Specifically, I note that the Equality and Human Rights Commission had raised some concerns about overlap. The bill mentions inclusive communication. How does that interact with the need for reasonable adjustments, as set out in the 2010 act, and is it blurring the lines in relation to what each piece of law should do? It would be good for the committee to hear your view on that.

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Child Payment

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Paul O'Kane

We had a discussion last week about keeping people in poverty versus lifting people out of poverty, and about the relevance of the poverty line. Do you have a view on the terminology?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Paul O'Kane

I want to follow up an exchange in the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee about what qualifies as a temporary break in care. A concern was raised about people who are in a period of legal detention and whether the policy intention that that would qualify as a temporary break in care would be met by the regulations. I understand that there was an exchange of letters to confirm that that is still the policy intention, but does the cabinet secretary want to put anything on the record about that concern, which was raised by that committee?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Child Payment

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Paul O'Kane

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Child Payment

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Paul O'Kane

I return to the point about data. You have provided helpful qualitative evidence, and we heard some of that last week, too. However, the Joseph Rowntree Foundation has said that we cannot reach definitive conclusions because of a lack of data, despite the encouraging evidence that you have all referred to. What data do we need?

Secondly, the Government talks about 60,000 children being “kept out” of poverty, but I am aware that that model uses a range of factors that are based on an invented or imagined scenario in which certain Government policies do not exist and the Scottish child payment is held up against that. I am keen to hear your views on the accuracy of that model. Jack, would you like to start?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Child Payment

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Paul O'Kane

Good morning. We are particularly interested in understanding the effectiveness of the child payment in reducing poverty. The first broad question that I am keen to get the panel’s views on is what we know so far about the effectiveness of the child payment in lifting children out of poverty.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Child Payment

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Paul O'Kane

Other panel members may want to reflect on the point about data but, in the interest of time, we are also keen to understand the extent to which the Scottish child payment is impacting on deep and persistent poverty. Do we need to do more work on those specific families in order to understand the picture? Ruth Boyle might want to answer first.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Suicide Prevention

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Paul O'Kane

On the point about good-quality data, measuring impact has been of interest to the committee throughout our evidence sessions. Measuring the overall impact of the strategy will be important, but in relation to this line of questioning, how will we understand the impact on the groups that we want to focus on? I understand that there are a range of factors and a range of outcomes. Does Haylis want to start with the data set, and then we can think about other issues?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Suicide Prevention

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Paul O'Kane

I will build on that theme of the sustainability of funding.

In the previous exchange that I had with you in the meeting, minister, I think that you mentioned men’s sheds—or, certainly, men’s groups—as being vital. We heard from the Scottish Men’s Sheds Association about the challenges with the sustainability of funding. In the intervening period, the Government had to rethink its withdrawal of funding to the association, but we heard from it that it does not have sufficient money to plan because, sometimes, it has no more than six months to a year’s funding.

I kept asking the third sector organisations who gave us evidence what the challenge is in that situation. We heard that the challenge is about being able not only to test what works and to test change, but to give security to people who feel that those organisations are literally a lifeline.

Does the minister want to reflect on whether the Government—as it has promised for a long time—will move towards more sustainable and longer-term funding?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Suicide Prevention

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Paul O'Kane

On the broader approach, although the strategy is important and sits in certain portfolios within the Scottish Government and local authorities, it is clear that we will need societal approaches. To what extent has it been challenging to develop a cross-Government, cross-authority approach? We appreciate that a number of different challenges are faced by all spheres of government. Is there a sense that the strategy is and will be cross-cutting across various sectors?