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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

Thank you very much.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

Are you saying that the Scottish Government needs to put its money where its mouth is?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

My questions were going to be similar to John Swinney’s, so I will take forward that point about the disconnect between stated policy and reality on the ground. According to the Scottish Parliament information centre, the community justice budget is flat in real terms. You will know that this committee spent a considerable amount of the past year looking at the bail legislation that is coming through. It is clear from Angela Constance that the Scottish Government’s long-term strategy is to shift towards more community justice disposals as an attempt to reduce prison numbers or even keep prison numbers where they are, because the direction of travel is up, as we know.

Surely it is the politicians and the Government who drive change. Who else can possibly drive change if not the politicians who are put there to do it? Who else in the system is in a position to do that? What discussions have you as an organisation had with ministers about what they expect from you? If the money that the sector gets does not increase, are you being asked to do more? Is that being made explicit to you? Surely the courts will use community justice disposals only if they are there. Is that not the major factor that determines that our prison numbers continue to go up and, from what you say, that the sector is shrinking rather than expanding? Is that fair?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

If those alternatives were available in every part of the country, would they be used by the courts?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

My question is probably for Dr Bruce. Trauma-informed care is obviously an issue across the justice system, but I know that Dr Bruce has said that more of her work is associated with victims and witnesses. You have already said that the way that the prosecution takes evidence from a witness can have a big impact on the quality of the evidence that is given. Could you expand on that? What implications does that have for cross-examination by the defence? Witness preparation is not a major feature of our justice system. From the work that you have done with people who work with victims and witnesses, do you have any comments on issues that arise?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

Are you saying that sheriffs and others do not make community-based disposals because they think that the offender will not comply with them?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Katy Clark

—for the person waiting for the money, that is not an acceptable position, is it?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Katy Clark

We also know from Social Security Scotland’s figures for May 2023 that 40 per cent of all applications for the adult disability payment were rejected. Although that is slightly lower than the average 47 per cent rejection rate for applications for personal independence payment across the UK, it is also an extremely high rejection rate. Has the Government identified the factors that need to be addressed to reduce that rate? Does the cabinet secretary have an explanation as to why rejection rates are so high?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Katy Clark

You have explained that, cabinet secretary. You have made very clear the differences in the system, but—

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Katy Clark

Statistics have previously shown that people in Scotland are waiting longer for their adult disability payment decision from Social Security Scotland than people in England and Wales who have applied for the personal independence payment through the DWP. The average wait time for an adult disability decision is around 19 weeks, in comparison to nine weeks for the personal independence payment decision, and the wait times have doubled over the past year. What steps is Social Security Scotland taking to reduce those waiting times?