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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Katy Clark

I have some questions about budgetary issues in relation to HMP Greenock. You outlined to Pauline McNeill the long lead-in times that projects can incur. There are plans for a new build in Inverclyde, but has any work started on that? On the current estate, will you outline the budgetary implications of the current fabric of HMP Greenock and the conditions that your staff and the prisoners are having to endure? I understand that substantial work is going on in relation to the walls. Will you give an update on that and the budgetary implications?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Katy Clark

I understand all of that. Can you say how much you have spent and how much you envisage spending? If it is the case that you are unable to do the work that you think is necessary, it would be helpful for the committee to understand that.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Katy Clark

Minister, you have made it clear that you have been in discussions with the Crown Office. The Lord Advocate has said that it would not be in the public interest to prosecute users of drug consumption rooms for simple possession offences and that she would be prepared to draft a prosecution policy along those lines. Have you engaged with the Lord Advocate on that point? What legal protections will be in place for staff at drug consumption facilities?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Katy Clark

That matter is on-going and you have it under active consideration.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Katy Clark

In the forthcoming budget or historically?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Katy Clark

My next question is for the minister. It is estimated that funding for Scotland’s alcohol and drug partnerships has been cut by around £19 million, but that funding is essential, given the role that those partnerships play in trying to address the public health emergency of drug deaths.

I am not going to ask the minister to give an undertaking on what will be in the budget, but I will ask her to give a commitment to make the case—in the strongest terms—as to why those cuts need to be reversed and further funding needs to be devoted to those partnerships. Is that something that she feels able to commit to?

13:45  

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

Is an adversarial system able to deliver on some of the principles that you are setting out?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

You are saying that it is not just what happens in court, but what has happened all the way leading up to that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

I will try to be as brief as possible. I have two questions about trauma-informed training for key players in the courts.

My first question is to Laura Buchan and it relates to defence agents. I understand that, although trauma-informed training is available from organisations such as the Law Society of Scotland—and no doubt lots of other organisations, as well—it is not mandatory. A voluntary course is available as an option for continuous professional development. Would it be helpful if there was mandatory training for defence agents who appear in the criminal courts?

My second question is more to David Fraser and relates to judges, whether that is sheriffs or judges in the High Court. What quality of trauma-informed training is available to judges—whatever type of judge they are and whichever criminal court they are in? Does that need significant enhancement? Do more judges have a better understanding of trauma-informed practice than other people? How do we improve the overall standard? They must be the gatekeeper in the court. They are in charge of the court and are the only people who are able to insist on how courts are conducted.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Katy Clark

That is a specialist court. We are not just talking about that today.