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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
There may be practical issues around it, so it would be very helpful if you could write to us about that.
I have a supplementary question that picks up on some of the points that were made at the end of the earlier evidence session, which you may have heard. I know that you are well aware of the risks to firefighters in relation to decontamination and no doubt are giving a great deal of consideration to how the service responds to that. You have already mentioned the requirement to provide a safe system of work for firefighters. Legally, you have to provide a safe system of work and you should not be sending firefighters out unless there is a safe system of work in place. It is quite clear that, currently, there is often no safe system of work. How are you responding to that? What are you doing now to ensure that you meet your legal responsibilities as an employer?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
Do you think that it provides a safe system of work now?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Katy Clark
That would be very helpful.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Katy Clark
That is helpful. We will look at the example of East Dunbartonshire, because, as you know, violence in schools is a big issue in that area in particular.
The committee heard evidence that the provisions in part 4 that relate to the ability to remove a child from any domestic abuse education, might not be compliant with international obligations and the UNCRC. Was that raised with you at any point? Was it considered when you drafted the bill? Having gone through the member’s bill process, I know that such matters are often looked at. Will you respond to the suggestion that the provision might not be compliant?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Katy Clark
When we took evidence, one issue that was raised was how domestic abuse programmes and education could potentially be very traumatic, particularly for children who have directly experienced domestic abuse. Did you consider that in the work that you did?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Katy Clark
I am sorry to interject, but do you have any examples of good practice? Have you been to a school where you have seen good practice, or do you have evidence from the consultations that you have done, whereby people have identified work that has been done in a particular school as a really good programme that they think had an impact? From the work that you have done, is there anything to which you can point us to give us an idea of what you are saying should happen in every school?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Katy Clark
I understand what you are saying, and I understand your frustration.
The bill includes provisions on a lot of different issues, and I am not sure how much time you have been able to devote to part 4. You have said that there is a postcode lottery. Are there any examples of good practice that you can point to that you would like to be rolled out throughout the country? Have you had the time to look at examples of good practice, given that there is so much in the bill?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Katy Clark
I want to ask about how we deal with these issues in schools. You will have heard what the Scottish Government said when the Minister for Victims and Community Safety gave evidence to the committee. She took the view that putting the matter in statute would not be in line with the current discretionary and non-prescriptive approach to the delivery of learning and teaching.
Why do you think that there should be something in statute in relation to education on domestic abuse? Do you think that it might be helpful if the bill’s provisions were broadened out? We know that a significant problem exists with sexism and misogyny, including in school settings. Do you think that the provisions should be wider than domestic abuse and that that part of the bill should be about ensuring that, in the curriculum, we deal more widely with sexism and misogyny, including domestic violence and violence against women and girls?
There are two parts to my question. First, I would like your justification as to why you think that education on domestic abuse should be statutory. Secondly, I would like to know whether you have given any consideration to the provisions potentially being broadened out.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Katy Clark
Thank you very much.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Katy Clark
Does either of the other witnesses want to come in? It would be helpful to know how significant the gap in availability is and to have an assessment of the extent to which rehabilitation is available, not just where specified criteria apply but where, ideally, it should be available.