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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Katy Clark

I have a question. I would not want in any way to hold up the passage of SSI 2024/26, which removes historical discrimination, but some outstanding issues are not covered in the SSI and I wonder whether we could get further information from the Scottish Government.

A significant part of the Fire Brigades Union response to the UK-wide consultation relates to the issue of aggregation, which is not covered in the regulations. Aggregation only applies to some members who joined the Fire and Rescue Service before April 2006, but it is an outstanding issue that I am sure—or I would hope—that we would all want to be addressed. It would be useful to get an understanding of the Scottish Government’s position on that. I appreciate that there are on-going UK-wide discussions, but it would be useful to know whether the Scottish Government considered going further, or what representations it is making in relation to those issues.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2024

Katy Clark

I am very much aware of the UK’s responsibilities and of its failings. We spent the whole of Tuesday afternoon discussing a hypothetical social security system in an independent Scotland. Surely the payments that we are discussing are within your power. It might be that there is not the money to do this, but I am asking whether you have done any costings and whether you could look into the matter, given that we are dealing with real costs to people. Has any work been done on that, and could that be shared?

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2024

Katy Clark

I understand that winter heating payments are being increased in line with the CPI. Has any work been done on the cost of increasing them in line with energy prices, which, as the cabinet secretary is well aware, are a major challenge? Have there been any costings? What would the financial implications of that be?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Katy Clark

Minister, you have clearly been watching what has been happening down south, and it is clear that there have been a number of problems there. The ban on rehoming has had an impact on vets and on people at rehoming centres, who have been put in a position of being obliged to destroy healthy dogs that come into their care after the rehoming deadline. We have also been told that there have been difficulties in establishing muscle training at short notice, and the veterinary sector has said that it lacks sufficient capacity to carry out all the required neutering.

Given all the very practical issues that we have already seen in England and Wales, and that you say that you have already had many meetings with stakeholders in Scotland, do you envisage similar problems in Scotland after the order comes into effect later this week—if we vote in favour of it?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Katy Clark

Is it saying that it can cope with what is about to happen? Given that you have had all those meetings, you must know that, as that is a very basic question, is it not? Are you assured that everything will be okay in Scotland, or do you think that there will be problems?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Katy Clark

I am more concerned with the criminal courts and what is or is not an offence. I want strong legislation that is easily interpreted by a court. That is why I ask what the status of the guidance is. How will a court determine what is or is not an XL bully dog?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Katy Clark

The order that has been put in front of us is astonishingly short. Will you confirm exactly what will happen later this week? The safeguards that relate to designated dogs will require XL bully dogs to be kept muzzled and on a lead. Beyond that, is anything happening later this week, or will the other things happen on 1 August?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Katy Clark

If you were to, say, breed or give away an XL bully dog, you could be committing a criminal offence. Is that correct?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Katy Clark

The problem with that is the insufficient clarity about what an XL bully dog is. We are being asked to vote on a very short order. Is there any definition in it? Do you not think that parliamentarians should have a definition before they vote?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Katy Clark

You are mirroring the definitions down south.