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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
That might be the case, and the Government might want to introduce further legislation in due course. However, you said that the Scottish Government supports the creation of a criminal offence that would prohibit paying for sex. Are you suggesting that something has happened to change that view?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
You were asked by Jamie Hepburn whether you believe that the bill would make things less safe for women. Are you suggesting that the provisions that would criminalise paying for sex would make things less safe for women?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
So, you are saying that women should continue to be criminalised. That is the reason why you would not support the quashing or the pardoning of previous convictions.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
If you think that women—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
I will ask a further question. You said that you cannot make a commitment to carrying the bill over to the next parliamentary session. However, surely the Scottish National Party Government should be making a commitment about what it would do in that session. If you take the view that there is simply not enough time to advance the bill in this session and that that time genuinely cannot be found, because of the amount of work that would be involved and because there are so many other bills—I have a member’s bill myself—surely you should be making the case that this issue should be allowed to be carried over to the next parliamentary session? Is your role not to try to advance the bill as far as possible in this parliamentary session and, if, in March, the Parliament is genuinely in a position where the bill cannot be enacted, to make the case for carrying it over?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
That further information would be really helpful.
Can you say anything about the financial impacts on other areas of the criminal justice system of the failure to rehabilitate people while they are in prison? Have you done any work on that, or have you a view on it?
11:45Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
I will ask about rehabilitation and pre-release planning.
We have high numbers of people in prison in Scotland. Teresa Medhurst, you spoke about the purposes of prison. If we accept that one of its purposes should be aiming to reduce reoffending, what more could be done on that, and what would be the budgetary implications?
We heard from Linda Pollock about some aspects of rehabilitation work, but we regularly hear from others that prisoners are unable to access programmes. In your written submission you set out the impact of high prison population numbers on your ability to carry out such work. Will you say a little more about budgets and whether specific groups need to be prioritised for work on rehabilitation and planning for release? The evidence suggests that the more planning takes place, the less likely it is that there will be reoffending.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
Well, I have asked whether it is acceptable.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
I have a further question in relation to the potential new criminal offence. Do you agree that the central issue for this committee and for the Scottish Government is whether criminalising paying for sex is the right thing to do for society and the women involved? Do you agree that the issues around the difficulty of prosecution that were raised in evidence to the committee are very similar to those around other offences, such as rape and sexual offences, given the nature of those offences and this potential offence?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Katy Clark
There are very low conviction rates for rape, but nobody suggests that that means it should be decriminalised. Do you agree that the central issue is whether the act should be a criminal offence?