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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Katy Clark

I appreciate that concerns about service are raised by the public in a number of ways, not always as a formal complaint and, as you said, not always with yourself. From casework from my constituents, it appears that there can be an inconsistency in the way that issues are dealt with, and that there are some specialist staff who are dealing with complaints at a more regional level in a way that shows a high level of training and a specialism in dealing with these kinds of matters. However, when it goes back to a local level, the standard sometimes seems different. Would you recognise that as a fair description? Is that something that you have looked at or have views on? How do we get consistency in how issues are dealt with?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Katy Clark

I am thinking about specific cases that I have been involved with, and I am trying to understand whether there is a more general issue of inconsistency. Centralisation may mean that there are specialist staff who have very good skills in dealing with complaints, but are you concerned that they are not the only players in the process? Is that something that you have looked at or have views on?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Katy Clark

Yes, I am.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Katy Clark

That is fine. Thank you very much.

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Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Katy Clark

Cabinet secretary, you have spoken this morning about a number of workstreams and action plans. As somebody who is not involved in that, I sometimes find it quite difficult to understand the terrain. You have made clear the commitment to whole-system approaches and to partnership work.

As I understand it, the Scottish Government established a mental health and capacity reform programme to address the recommendations from the Scottish mental health law review. That programme does not sit under the justice portfolio. Indeed, much of the work will sit outside justice, although it obviously has a massive impact in relation to your responsibilities. Will you say a bit more about the work under the reform programme to deliver the recommendations of the Scottish mental health law review, about your oversight role and about the extent to which it relates to other parts of Government?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Katy Clark

You wrote to the committee in August in relation to the mental health and wellbeing strategy and the delivery plan. It would be extremely helpful if the committee could be kept advised not only of the work on the delivery plan that you have referred to with regard to the reform programme, but of whether this actually sits under justice. After all, we have to ensure that there is ministerial drive on this. I have to say, though, that it sounds as if you are not concerned about things falling through the cracks because some of the responsibilities do not lie within your remit. Do you still feel able to have oversight and to ensure that, on the subject of policing vulnerable people that we are looking at today, action is being taken as quickly as possible to implement policy?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Katy Clark

Thank you. That is reassuring. I wonder whether Robby Steel or David Hamilton would like to comment.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Katy Clark

Given what you have said, I think that it is fair to say that you feel that you have strong statistical data and that the Scottish Government has provided the administrative data that you require to develop a robust costing. We look forward to your report in January.

Will you tell us how far ahead you are able to make forecasts? The two-child limit policy affects only children born since 2017 and will not be fully rolled out until 2035. Once a policy is introduced, it can be very difficult to withdraw it, so we need to make decisions for the long term. We do not know what will happen with the UK Government’s policy position on the issue, but if the Scottish Government were to take that on for the long term, how far ahead are you able to forecast? We need to be able to understand the long-term implications of any policy decisions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Katy Clark

Thank you. I have no doubt that the committee will come back to that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Katy Clark

The report in January will give us forecasts only for the next five years. Is that correct?