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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Russell Findlay

That makes sense. I asked the question because some victims groups have said that the name suggested that victims were almost an add-on to the bill’s content, which is perhaps consistent with what has been said.

I move to my specific questions on part 4. Is removing the not proven verdict and reducing jury sizes expected to have any impact on conviction rates? What work has been done to assess that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Russell Findlay

I have a final quick question. Some lawyers have already said that they will boycott any juryless trial. What can you do to persuade them, or will you hope for the best once the bill is enacted?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Russell Findlay

Given that this is the bill that will deal with court processes and victims in this parliamentary session, it provides an opportunity, and I would be happy to see whether there is a way to work on a possible amendment to bring that proposal in. Given the radical reforms that are being proposed, this might be a quite simple fix, with the court recognising those situations in which criminal cases come with associated civil cases. It does not sound particularly difficult to bring it into being.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Russell Findlay

However, you believe that it should, from the beginning, also provide for the inhalation of certain substances.

10:15  

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Russell Findlay

That is about showing people that it works. Tracey, do you have anything to add?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Russell Findlay

Okay—thank you. Can I quickly move on to legislation, convener?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Russell Findlay

People are not getting sent to prison for possession of drugs—

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Russell Findlay

What she said at that time is that there would be a presumption against prosecution, which, based on the figures that I referred to, is a situtation that effectively already exists. However, she also said that the Crown ought to reserve the right to prosecute where it is deemed appropriate. Do you agree with that? Alternatively, do you think that that is completely wrong and there should just be a blanket non-prosecution presumption?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Russell Findlay

Is that the universal view?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Russell Findlay

No problem, convener.

Kirsten Horsburgh, I know that you have spoken passionately in previous committee meetings about safe consumption rooms. You have worked on the issue for seven years and your knowledge is probably unmatched. My question is more about the practicalities. I should perhaps know this—maybe it has been said elsewhere—but is the facility in Glasgow going to be run entirely by the NHS?