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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Sexual Offences Cases

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Russell Findlay

Even if the bill is fixed and streamlined, surely the very nature of there being an additional voice in the court will potentially result in more delay.

Criminal Justice Committee

Chief Constable Jo Farrell: Vision and Priorities for Police Scotland

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Russell Findlay

I was going to ask about the comments that the witnesses made about the culture, but I do not think that we have time, so I will instead focus on the estate. I share John Swinney’s incredulity about Dalmarnock. That police station is less than 10 years old and cost £24 million, but it is 80 per cent empty.

To go back to the budget, in its submission to the committee, Police Scotland said that it needed £463 million of capital funding for the next five years. Yesterday, you were given £64.5 million, which is significantly less. Are you able to rule out any further closures once the proposed plans have been implemented?

Criminal Justice Committee

Chief Constable Jo Farrell: Vision and Priorities for Police Scotland

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Russell Findlay

You cannot confirm that it will be 2027 at this point, but you will come back to us on that.

As for sensitivities around the preservation and use of this data, all the other UK forces have managed such matters perfectly well for many years now. What is uniquely different about Police Scotland?

Criminal Justice Committee

Chief Constable Jo Farrell: Vision and Priorities for Police Scotland

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Russell Findlay

Thank you convener, and good morning everyone. Chief constable, the first headline that you generated was about the misuse of a police car being driven by a police officer who was on duty. Any other officer who did that might have expected to get their P45, but the Scottish Government and the Scottish Police Authority have forgiven you. Does that incident risk compromising you and your relationship with the Government when it comes to asking for more money and other issues of that nature?

Criminal Justice Committee

Chief Constable Jo Farrell: Vision and Priorities for Police Scotland

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Russell Findlay

Thank you. Assistant Chief Officer Gary Ridley of Durham Constabulary is giving Police Scotland unpaid advice. We know that only because he also got a lift home in the police car. Was that advice anything to do with Police Scotland’s budgets or its financial situation? Does his unpaid involvement with Police Scotland say anything about your confidence in Mr Gray or any senior officers in Police Scotland?

Criminal Justice Committee

Chief Constable Jo Farrell: Vision and Priorities for Police Scotland

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Russell Findlay

What was the nature of his advice?

Criminal Justice Committee

Chief Constable Jo Farrell: Vision and Priorities for Police Scotland

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Russell Findlay

I am sorry to interrupt, but it is quite surprising to hear that Police Scotland has been in existence for 10 years and the eight legacy forces still have their own systems. Is that correct?

Criminal Justice Committee

Chief Constable Jo Farrell: Vision and Priorities for Police Scotland

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Russell Findlay

Does the master plan or blueprint mean that people will start working out of Dalmarnock?

Criminal Justice Committee

Chief Constable Jo Farrell: Vision and Priorities for Police Scotland

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Russell Findlay

Thank you.

Can I ask about body-worn cameras, convener?

Criminal Justice Committee

Chief Constable Jo Farrell: Vision and Priorities for Police Scotland

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Russell Findlay

You have already talked about body-worn cameras. As we know, Police Scotland officers are the only ones in the UK not to have those as standard, and there is a bit of a long chronology to this subject that I will recap very quickly.

In 2020, the former Lord Advocate called for the cameras to be introduced; in 2021, the former Scottish National Party justice secretary told the committee that additional money had been given for them; in 2022, David Page of Police Scotland told the committee that it was a real weakness that they did not have that basic capability; in April, we were told the target date for full roll-out was 2027; and, at that meeting, Rona Mackay told us that the committee had been talking about body-worn cameras up to six years ago, long before my time here. We have also had commitments from Humza Yousaf that they are a priority. After that, however, Mr Page told the committee that he could not guarantee that roll-out would begin next year.

Chief constable, I heard you in your opening statement say that the intent now was to begin roll-out next year but, for the sake of police officers who have had to suffer at least six years of hearing about this happening, can you give them any idea of when they are all going to have these cameras? Is 2027 still the likely completion date?