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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Police Numbers and New Pension Arrangements

Meeting date: 22 June 2022

Russell Findlay

When I read the Police Scotland letter from David Page, a paragraph jumped out at me and I underlined it. In relation to what it is fair to describe as an exodus of police officers, some of them with a great number of years of experience, he says that

“there is no impact to service delivery”.

When I turned to the letter from Calum Steele of the Scottish Police Federation, I found that, like me, he had quite strongly questioned that statement. His take on the claim by Mr Page that there is “no impact”, which is there for everyone to see, is that

“This is demonstrably untrue and verging on the deliberately disingenuous.”

Calum Steele goes on to point out that Police Scotland

“has the lowest number of police officers since 2008”

and concludes by saying of the challenges that Police Scotland faces that it cannot properly respond to them

“if it is not honest about them to itself, whilst simultaneously seeking to present a highly partial narrative about them to our parliamentarians.”

It is quite extraordinary that the general secretary of the SPF is saying, in effect, that Police Scotland is misleading us as MSPs and as a committee. It is vital that we get to the bottom of this and work out exactly what the pension issue and its effect on officer numbers is going to mean for policing in communities.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Russell Findlay

Your four-year plan talks about your first annual report to Parliament being due in summer 2022. Do you have a date for that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Russell Findlay

One bit of information in a briefing that we received suggests that the Scottish Government was seeking that biometric data held by UK policing organisations, such as the British Transport Police, the Ministry of Defence Police and the NCA, should come within the remit of the Scottish Biometrics Commissioner. Has that happened?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Russell Findlay

Good morning. I think that you have answered one of the questions on my list, which was about the difference between yourself and the biometrics commissioner down south, which has been in existence since 2016. You have a much broader scope of material or factors to consider. Is that general assessment correct?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Russell Findlay

These organisations operate UK-wide. Was any consideration given to including the security services?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Russell Findlay

And it happened because of Covid.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Russell Findlay

I presume that the annual report will also address where you are at with each of the 15 key performance indicators.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Russell Findlay

I just want quickly to touch on what is going on elsewhere in the United Kingdom. Dr Plastow, you have previously been quoted as describing what is happening there as a “dangerously authoritarian path”. I do not know whether that relates specifically to the case in south Wales or is a more general comment, but it prompted a rebuke from the Scottish Police Federation, which went as far as to question your objectivity. Has that been resolved? Have you had conversations with the SPF? Does it now understand where you are coming from?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Russell Findlay

I will be brief. My question has two parts and is very specific. Jamie Greene touched on local authorities that have the capacity to use facial recognition technology but are not yet using it, and he talked about the fact that the technology is changing rapidly—day by day and week by week. Do you know of any private organisations that might be using facial recognition technology and, if so, what ramifications could that have? Furthermore, it is likely that a retailer that uses the technology will instinctively share the information that it gets with the police, and that the information would be used for policing purposes. Would you have a role at that point, or is there a worry that that would come in through the back door—through the private sector?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Russell Findlay

Of course phones contain the technology, but I am talking more about what happens on the ground in society. If the police utilise information from private companies, would you have a role in that, or do you know what the ramifications of that might be?