The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
All Official Reports of public meetings of committees.
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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 9 November 2022
Russell Findlay
I will quickly summarise what you have said about Kilmarnock prison. It is being transferred into public ownership. Currently, it is very well run. You believe that the decision was ideological.
Earlier this year, I had a conversation with some prison officers who represent staff at Kilmarnock. They said that it costs in the region of £20,000 per annum to keep a prisoner there, whereas it costs about £38,000 to keep a prisoner in the public estate. They also said that Serco had offered to build a 300-bed replacement facility as part of a continuation of the contract, but the Government rejected that. They could not understand the logic behind that.
Is the deal done, or is there any way of going back on it or revisiting it?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 9 November 2022
Russell Findlay
You have referred to Audit Scotland and the cost of the transfer. Aside from staff wages, one cost that has been overlooked is pension costs. Are you able to quantify that in any way? Have you spoken to Audit Scotland directly about that?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 9 November 2022
Russell Findlay
This is probably impossible, but can you provide a figure?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2022
Russell Findlay
Yes, that is the four-year total.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2022
Russell Findlay
Yes. Given the financial pressures that would come with even the most optimistic projection and given the backlog that already exists, has there been any discussion between the court service and the Crown about dealing with the summary cases more efficiently with non-court disposals, which is a direction of travel in the justice system anyway? Specifically in light of the budget pressures, has that been talked about? Both of you can answer that.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2022
Russell Findlay
From that answer, it sounds as if there is not an active discussion about a change of policy or suchlike.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2022
Russell Findlay
Going back to focus on summary cases, you have spoken, Mr McQueen, about the fact that one in 10 police officers cited for summary cases do not give evidence. That is a monumental waste of their time. It takes them away from communities when police budgets, as we heard last week, are under extraordinary pressure. You used the word “churn”. This has been a blight in the justice system and the court system for years. Given that there are tens of thousands of summary cases where work is done and a guilty plea is ultimately reached and all that work has not been needed, why on earth has there not been a better grip on this until now? What can be done? Is it a question of too many organisations all blaming one another? Does the blame lie with the Crown, with the courts, with the judiciary, with defence lawyers? Why are these figures so appalling and these delays so built into the system? What can be done apart from continually recognising it and talking about it?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2022
Russell Findlay
Your answers have partly covered the ground that I was going to ask about, but I have a question about the estates. In your submission, you say that the budget for the next four years amounts to about £440 million, which is mostly about building prisons but is also to do with the cost of providing cables for internet access, phone lines and so on.
We already know that Stirling prison is three years late and that the replacement for Barlinnie is due to open in 2026, with HMP Highland due to be finished in 2024. Last week, Police Scotland told us that inflation on building costs is much higher than general inflation—I think that the figure that we were given was around 30 per cent. You have already suggested that, in the final two years of the projections, you are expecting an overrun. Can you quantify that? Do you have any idea what the figures will be and where the money comes from? Has Government committed to meeting those costs or will the building have to stop or compromises have to be made?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2022
Russell Findlay
Does 30 per cent inflation sound probable?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2022
Russell Findlay
I am sure that we are all looking forward to seeing the statistics from the pilots and how they work out.
I want to go back to the point that Pauline McNeill raised about the 7,000 Covid deaths being subject to investigation. A unit has been set up to deal with that. I presume that the process will not involve a full fatal accident inquiry for each death. Is that correct? If it is, is there any public outcome in relation to the deaths?