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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I imagine that I would have a sign about Eljamel.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Would it be possible for you to write to us with some ways of wording that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I will pick up on that point. Is the bill the only legislation that specifically mentions private dwellings? Do all the pieces of legislation mention them?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Thanks for the presentation. I have a couple of questions. The first revolves around what has been said about a slippery slope argument in other jurisdictions in which measures have been brought in. We are all aware that the reason is very specific and that the scope of the bill is very tight. However, the bill also says something about private dwellings. The slippery slope argument is, “Well, we’ll bring this in here, but maybe we’ll then be able to say that we will do something else a little later, then we will do that something else,” and we start to erode what happens in a private dwelling.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Thank you so much for telling us your stories and what happened.

I declare my interest as a practising NHS GP.

This is a hypothetical question, so if you cannot answer it, do not feel that you need to answer it. The protests that you faced very much involved things happening—Lily’s partner at the time was approached. What impact would silent prayers and vigils potentially have had on you? Obviously, that did not actually happen.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Thank you—that is very helpful.

I open this up to other members of the panel. The bill before us contains provisions that cover putting up posters or signs within private dwellings. We can fully understand the reasons for that. My question to all the panel is whether you think that it is proportionate to have such provisions, and whether you feel that they have been balanced appropriately with the right for people to do almost what they want in their own property.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I want to say that, as a GP, when a woman comes to me to ask for an abortion, it is not just a case of saying yes and moving on. There is a conversation to be had, because it is about safeguarding. People can conscientiously object, but they have to pass that patient on to somebody who can have that conversation. That is quite important.

I want to talk about human rights. I am going to ask some really difficult questions, which could potentially be quite triggering. There is a group of people, in our country and especially in America, who feel that human rights begin at fertilisation—that the embryo is a human with rights and that, in essence, what is occurring is murder. When someone has a view that is so strong and so set that they use a word like that, they want to be heard. They want their human rights and the human rights of the foetus or embryo—whatever term we or they want to give it—to be heard. What is your opinion about what I have just said, and what would you say in response?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I will go slightly off topic, if I may. In Alabama, new legislation has come in on what constitutes a human, and that will make a huge difference to in vitro fertilisation—IVF—treatment over there. What has happened in Alabama marks a huge difference. Opinions change, people change and our thinking changes as time goes on. Do you think that the bill is going to give us future safeguarding in areas such as this when things have happened elsewhere?