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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Take 2.

Minister, at the beginning of this evidence session you announced a consultation on two specific groups of students, if I remember rightly. Can you tell us a bit more about what that consultation seeks to ask and find out? What will you do with its results?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I probably mean for both, if I am honest. However, in this context, we are talking about widening-access students. In its evidence, Universities Scotland said:

“We heard from the commissioner that there is a recognition in other countries that increased needs require increased investment”,

but that

“That is not necessarily what happens in Scotland.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 26 February 2025; c 43.]

Therefore, it is probably about that group of people.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you think that the support is sufficient for people who need support to get through university, to fund the additional costs that they might have, or do you need to look again at how student support is targeted?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Finally, submissions from the Open University, UWS and others have mentioned the value of part-time studying. We heard about that this morning. Obviously, the part-time fee grant, which is available only to those earning under £25,000, has not been reviewed in a while. Is the Government considering a review of that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Would it be possible to look at that aspect? You say that you do not know whether people are leaving because of a positive reason, such as taking employment, or to go elsewhere. How big a task would it be to start gathering that information?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It is fairly widely accepted that getting into university is only part of the story, and that staying in and coming out as a graduate are also key measures. The commissioner for fair access suggested that we should give equal weight to entry, student experience and outcomes. What data are you gathering to help us to understand those aspects of the widening access agenda?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I want to ask about one of the things that you announced earlier, minister.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that, and thank you for the offer to work together. I would be happy to take up that offer.

Last week, Rebecca Scarlett from Lead Scotland gave evidence. It is important to repeat what she said about the review of support for disabled students that was carried out in 2019 and reported in 2023. Rebecca said that disabled students had

“put a huge amount of resource, energy and time into the review.”

She went on to say:

“The report, which was finally released in 2023, made a ream of recommendations, almost none of which has been implemented. I know that Scottish university heads submitted a request to the Scottish Government that that be taken forward, but next to nothing has happened. Nothing has changed, even in relation to the smallest recommendations that were made, and now the work is all out of date. All that energy, resource and time were invested, but nothing has happened, which is extremely frustrating.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 26 February 2025; c 44-5.]

What will be different this time? Can the minister reassure organisations that engaging this time will result in change?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that. Thank you.

A group was convened on the back of the 2023 recommendations but has not been reconvened. Would it be fair to ask for that group to be reconvened, with the recommendations of the previous report as a starting point? Could any action that is taken seek to build on those recommendations and action them further, without undoing any of that work and making people feel that they have put in a lot of effort for no reason?