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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that. Thank you.

A group was convened on the back of the 2023 recommendations but has not been reconvened. Would it be fair to ask for that group to be reconvened, with the recommendations of the previous report as a starting point? Could any action that is taken seek to build on those recommendations and action them further, without undoing any of that work and making people feel that they have put in a lot of effort for no reason?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The UWS example is a good one, and it speaks to the point from my colleague earlier about having to say only once that you need something, doing so early and having the time to do that. You recognised that, if people do not have their conditional offer in time, there is not much time to do that, so the example is useful.

You talked earlier about some students not necessarily staying on and leaving education for other reasons—perhaps to go and take work for financial reasons—rather than what might be best for their future career prospects. The National Union of Students Scotland published a report saying that education is free, which we all support, but that studying is not. On that basis and in that context, do you think that the current way in which spending on student support is structured means that it reaches the students who need it the most?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

On measuring retention at first year and into second year, we heard evidence from young people that, if there is a drop-off at that point, that could sometimes be because people have realised that university may not be where they want to be, so looking at retention into third and fourth year might give a stronger picture of what is happening in institutions that is either helping people to stay or not. Are you considering looking at that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate the way in which you answered the price tag question, minister. Can you set out in a bit more detail how the figure of £15 million came about?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

But it was not linked to the scale or scope of any of the challenges facing the sector.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Sorry, I meant to ask whether you think that the funding that you give institutions covers all the costs of the additional widening access aspects that we have discussed this morning.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Take 2.

Minister, at the beginning of this evidence session you announced a consultation on two specific groups of students, if I remember rightly. Can you tell us a bit more about what that consultation seeks to ask and find out? What will you do with its results?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I probably mean for both, if I am honest. However, in this context, we are talking about widening-access students. In its evidence, Universities Scotland said:

“We heard from the commissioner that there is a recognition in other countries that increased needs require increased investment”,

but that

“That is not necessarily what happens in Scotland.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 26 February 2025; c 43.]

Therefore, it is probably about that group of people.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you think that the support is sufficient for people who need support to get through university, to fund the additional costs that they might have, or do you need to look again at how student support is targeted?