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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you, Laura. Before I turn to you, Margaret Smith, I will ask Matt Forde about how the role of advocacy could work for infants and babies.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Is that what you mean by an infant safeguarder?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Good morning—I think it is still morning. I feel like I have been here so long that I am wondering whether it is still Wednesday.
I appreciate the witnesses’ answers so far. I will ask a general question before I move to general questions on aftercare and, potentially, advocacy—the convener can keep me right as to which area I should focus on.
A number of submissions pick out the issue with the UNCRC. We have just been really clear on the record about what that issue is. However, further to that, the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland submission says that the bill has the potential to have a negative impact. Kate Thompson, will you set out a little bit more for us about what that negative impact could be and whether there are ways to mitigate it?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Convener, in the interests of flow and time, is it your expectation that I will move on to questions of advocacy or aftercare?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Correct me if I am putting different words in your mouth, but I think that you said just a moment ago that some of the costings were unrealistic. What would be more realistic?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you. Someone else will probably ask questions on definitions, but is there a need to amend the legislation in that respect, and/or do we need more guidance and communication regarding who is covered?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Do any of you have a view on whether further detail on advocacy should be in regulations or in the bill, or should some be left to regulations, with more in the bill? What should the balance be?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
I am sorry, minister, but the timescales that have been assessed as being appropriate have been in place since the Parliament was set up. As you have rightly pointed out, other Parliaments use the same process. Why has the Government not figured out the costs within six months, in negotiations with the member?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
I have to say, minister, that I am quite uncomfortable with the line of questioning that we have just pursued on the difficulties with meeting the requirements of pupils with ASN—and affordability with regard to pupils with ASN—and with coming to an agreement in the timescales. The fact is that Parliament agreed this legislation at stage 1 and agreed that all of these issues should be discussed, and I myself made it clear in committee, both to yourself, minister, and to the member in charge, that the issues for pupils with ASN would have to be considered very carefully.
For me, an important aspect of the bill is that pupils with ASN are able to access this sort of education, including the sorts of experiences that have just been discussed. However, that was a discussion for stage 1. If the Government was so worried about that, the Government should not have voted for the bill. Did the Government abstain because it was not prepared to take the backlash for voting against a bill that not just the public but the Parliament quite clearly wanted?