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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

There obviously is significant interest in the financial sustainability of the sector, not least as part of what the bill might do, but also in general. I do not think that anyone can escape the concerns that have been raised around this.

Is there any indication that you could put at least some information in the public domain on the financial state of the sector, even though you might have been waiting for a couple of colleges to complete their accounts?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My amendment 309 would place an obligation on ministers to make regulations that specify the intervals at which establishments are to be inspected—the bill as currently drafted states that Scottish ministers “may” specify the intervals. That is incredibly important. As my colleague Stephen Kerr has set out on the record, it is important to continually understand what is happening in our schools and to get a regular picture of what is going on. It is not acceptable that ministers may not set out in regulation the intervals at which establishments should be inspected. That is why my amendment 309 would place an obligation on ministers to do so.

Amendment 312 would require ministers, before drafting such regulations, to consult teachers and

“people who ... represent the interests of ... teachers”.

That is important, because we have seen how inspections can lead to significant stress and concern for teachers and in establishments, which is one of the reasons why, in the debate on the previous group, I said that I was concerned about the Government’s amendment 84. It is crucial that we engage teachers so that they understand when and how often inspections will take place. The regulations must be laid and the sector should be engaged when the regulations are being drafted.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My amendment 321 would place a duty on the chief inspector in the exercise of their functions to take account of

“the priorities of the Scottish Ministers in relation to education”

and of recommendations made by bodies, including committees of the Scottish Parliament, whose remit includes matters relating to education policy.

My amendment 322 would place a duty on the chief inspector in the exercise of their functions to have regard for people who use British Sign Language, have protected characteristics under the Equality Act 2010 or have additional support needs. Given the circumstances in schools for pupils with additional support needs and the extensive information that we heard in advance of stage 2 about the importance of BSL and people with other protected characteristics, amendment 322 sets out what I think are particularly important aspects that the chief inspector must have regard to when carrying out their functions.

Amendment 323 provides regulation-making powers for ministers to say who is included as a specified body, and amendment 358, which is consequential on that, confirms that any regulations will be made under the affirmative procedure.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I thank the cabinet secretary for that. However, there was a discussion in the chamber about recruiting to the board of qualifications Scotland, during which I said that I thought it unusual that we were being asked to vote to begin the recruitment process for qualifications Scotland. It is that point that I was referring to—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am happy to.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Regarding helping with the landscape, you mention that

“smaller, incremental changes such as alignment of approaches and processes could facilitate a smoother and more manageable reform process.”

Could you give us a bit more information about that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My final question is on graduate apprenticeships. Do you think that there is anything in the bill that would help to increase the numbers of enrolments in graduate apprenticeships, or should anything be done in that regard outwith the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Would anything in the bill need to change to make that happen?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

For my understanding, can I check whether the minister is suggesting engagement with the review group with a view to the Government lodging amendments at stage 3?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Does the minister recognise that student loans are used for income in other areas?