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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Recognising the fact that there will be people who seek to harm women, as there have been forever, do you think that those people will need a gender recognition certificate to do so?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am sorry to interrupt but I am conscious of the time and keen to hear from Karon Monaghan. I have one other question. We have heard from people who are trans but who do not have gender dysphoria. What could we do to allow them to access a gender recognition certificate, which is incredibly important for them?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Various bits of research have been done to identify people who are trans but who do not yet have a GRC. Do you therefore think that people are missing from that? If so, who are those people who you think will come forward for a gender recognition certificate and who are not yet known to any services or organisations?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have one more question for you, and then I will move on. I agree that there will be some people who want to harm women, but do you think that those bad actors feel that they need a gender recognition certificate to do that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am not sure that I suggested a third space, but I take the point about privacy. Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Finally, Sharon Cowan—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you for the evidence that you gave us in advance on the work that you have done in the area, and for your answers to our questions so far this morning. I want to ask you about the interaction between the service and the gender recognition certificate.

Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board submitted information to the committee, and it has said that it is important to highlight

“the separation between successful application for a GRC and ... robust governance standards for gender identity treatment.”

For clarity, will you set out what that separation is, whether there is an interaction and, if so, where that is? I note that you touched on that a moment ago in your answer to my colleague Pam Gosal. Will you also set out where, if at all, a gender recognition certificate comes into play or is relevant in the gender reassignment protocol?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Sorry. I will try to remind myself. I may be corrected by the Official Report, but I think that I asked about the point that Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board made that it is important to clarify and highlight

“the separation between successful application for a GRC and ... robust governance standards for gender identity treatment.”

A lot of the evidence that the committee has had has been about both aspects of a trans person’s life. I want to get your view on the separation between the certificate and the gender identity treatment in the NHS.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Is there an example in international law that you could suggest to us?