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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have listened to the points on whether the timescale should be 60 or 40 days, and I am erring towards Ross Greer’s argument that it should be 60 days. It is important that the Parliament has as much time as possible to scrutinise the plan. Narrowing the period to 40 days could make it very tight. For example, if it was laid on the day before recess, we would have very few days left when we came back from recess to be able to do anything about it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have a slightly different question, if that is okay. We have heard about various different models. What does the panel think the role of colleges is in all of this?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I take Mr Greer’s point that amendment 334 could be read in that way. It could also be read in such a way that the people providing support are taking part in training and education, too, and support staff often tell us that that is what they are having to do. However, I would not want there to be any ambiguity in the drafting so, if the member has found that, it would be important for us to work together on the matter ahead of stage 3. The principle behind amendment 334 is an important one, and I hope that the member will consider it to be so.

My amendments in the group are crucial. We need to find a way to ensure that inspections pick up on what is happening as regards the wellbeing and experience of the pupils in schools and the people who work there. I realise that there have been behaviour plans, summits and other initiatives, but it would give a real focus to inspections if they were to include those factors. The mental and physical wellbeing of everyone in a school, whether they are working or being educated there, is incredibly important, which is why I lodged the amendments.

I move amendment 331.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I thank the member for that intervention and I encourage him, and his party and Government, to support my colleague Daniel Johnson’s bill. However, we have this bill in front of us, and there is an opportunity to look at restraint and seclusion. As I have put on the record, the issue is incredibly important, and I am pleased that Joe FitzPatrick thinks that it is important to include it in Daniel Johnson’s member’s bill. Given that I am sure that he supports what my amendments seek to do, I hope that he will also support that bill.

I move amendment 320.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Is there anything that you think we could do in legislation that might, for example, have highlighted some of the concerns that we see across the sector at the moment, particularly in Dundee?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

You make an important point about the long-term sustainability of the sector.

This question is for Martin Boyle. The bill gives powers to the SFC to make recommendations, issue guidance and monitor the financial stability of the post-16 landscape. To what extent would that improve your ability to identify risk and could the proposals be further strengthened?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am going to come to that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

From your perspective, Damien, is the bill the solution to the skills shortages that we have just now?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Okay. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

There obviously is significant interest in the financial sustainability of the sector, not least as part of what the bill might do, but also in general. I do not think that anyone can escape the concerns that have been raised around this.

Is there any indication that you could put at least some information in the public domain on the financial state of the sector, even though you might have been waiting for a couple of colleges to complete their accounts?