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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I thank the cabinet secretary for that answer, but I find it difficult not to come to the conclusion that, in effect, that means that, although the Scottish Government says that it supports—as we do—fair work, third sector organisations will have to make cuts, which feels disappointing. I understand the context that we are in but, as the cabinet secretary rightly pointed out, during the pandemic, those organisations did not just create flexibility but stepped up to the front line when others could not. I therefore urge the cabinet secretary to commit to resourcing the demands that she and her Government make of third sector organisations, so that they can meet those demands.

I have one point on long-term funding. Can the cabinet secretary set out the timescale that she is working to for delivering multiyear funding? Will she determine multiyear funding as a three-year minimum commitment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you—I appreciate that, and I do not doubt that there are strong lines of communication. It would be helpful, however, if those lines were more in the public domain. If it is possible to get a commitment to encourage Social Security Scotland to do that, it would be helpful. Are you able to do that, cabinet secretary?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

When the system was set up in Scotland, the Parliament at the time said that it would be fairer. I am slightly concerned about some of the work that I have seen on counterfraud and surveillance. Can you tell us a bit more about the team that you have set up to do that? What sorts of things are you doing? The job description included things such as covert surveillance, which made me quite uncomfortable. Could you tell me a little bit about that? Also, how much are you spending on the counterfraud surveillance work?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I understand that. I can see that, because of the choices that have been made so far. I get that there are countless problems with the DWP and the way in which it does things, not least policy. Can you explain why it was decided not to just lift the technology that the DWP used and apply it to the policy and the specifics for Scotland, instead of completely starting from scratch and facing the situation that you have just described, which is having to shut down the system for the weekend to try to catch up, inevitably continuing to have to bolt on additional bits to IT and having what appears to be a substandard system?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you know when those systems will have the information that you need to collect built into them?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

What evidence do you have of that kind of fraud and the likelihood of it happening?

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

At the moment, are you relying on data that is not published?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have a brief supplementary question. Thank you for answering our questions so far and for what you have shared in advance of the meeting. I want to pick up on the points that you made on mental health and the backlog in the NHS. Can you give a proportion of the increases that are attributable to those two factors?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

We could ask about that. Do you know why Social Security Scotland made that decision?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

With the exception of one small question, my questions have largely been answered. I noticed that, in the data—forgive me if I am misreading this—there are assumptions that there will be no increases in the winter heating payment or child winter heating assistance and that there will be less spending on best start grants. Can you say anything about what led to those assumptions?