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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It is a completely different question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have a question for Sandy Brindley. How does your service provide support to the women who come to you? How do you protect single-sex spaces and would having a gender recognition certificate be material to that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I had a follow-up question on the legal position. I note that Jen Ang said she is a lawyer, and I heard my colleague Rachael Hamilton getting to the nub of the Cass review and whether we should hear from Hilary Cass. What in the bill would relate to the Cass review? Why would having a gender recognition certificate lead to a process of medical transition, which is what the Cass review alludes to? Are you aware of any circumstances in which a gender recognition certificate has been used significantly in that process?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Forgive me, convener. I am slightly confused because, on one hand, Malcolm Clark in particular seems to be saying that it is important for young people to have medical input and therapy, but on the other hand, you feel a bit concerned about pushing people towards medical intervention. Which is it?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have to say that I think that there should be more support. However, on Lucy Hunter Blackburn’s point, and considering what is in the bill specifically, which part of the bill erases gender dysphoria?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have a follow-up question. Who are the people whom you are really worried about? Will you share examples that you have seen from international evidence? I know that you have collected a lot of that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The reason for my asking is that it is only such evidence that demonstrates the experience of self-declaration.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Please help me to understand. Have we not already, in the 2004 act, identified who would be protected under that section? Have we not also set out, in that act, what the effect of having a GRC would be? Which parts of the new act would change those aspects?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

—but the policy that already exists.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

So is it the effect of a GRC or the process of accessing a GRC that you think needs to change?