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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Is there a regional or structural model that you think could be developed that would support the people you represent, colleges in the sector as well, to the ends of getting young people into jobs?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Sai, you said that you have observer status on the SFC. How should that proceed going forward?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Is there a supply problem? Is there a lack of students from colleges who are, for example, prepared to take on the responsibility because they are busy doing other things, or is it a structural question of recruitment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Does any of that change if the management agent is a college?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I was going to say good morning, but it is the afternoon.

Thank you for your honesty, but also for the depth in which you have engaged with this because it is important. Before I ask my main question, if it is all right, I want to come back to Stephanie Lowe’s earlier point about the statistic that I quoted last week. That is what I think should drive us, and I think that your industry and our intentions to improve the life chances of young people across Scotland are aligned on that. What would you do, specifically, to make it easier for your industry to deliver for those 84,000 young people?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is coming across strongly.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

You have said that there should be a seat on the board. Should there also be committee structures for particular sectors?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Amendment 318 says that the chief inspector would “coordinate the support provided” instead of delivering the change. Once schools get their inspection reports, which, at the minute, are one word long—or, at least, are fairly short—they can be left without much support or advice on how to improve, and my amendment aims to add to the inspectorate’s work the function of trying to help schools collaborate with others to get as much information and support as they might need in order to make the improvements that the inspection report suggests that they need to make. If members support that principle, I would be prepared to bring the issue back at stage 3, but that is the intention behind the amendment. I would hope that I could get some support for giving the inspectorate that type of collaborative, supportive function at stage 3.

20:00  

I will not be moving my amendment 350, for the reasons that the cabinet secretary and Ross Greer have highlighted with regard to Education Scotland being named specifically. Again, however, I would note that I lodged my amendments in this group, because I felt that it was important for us to understand that the system needs to be coherent and that all the parts need to work together. Teachers on the front line and people who work in schools need to feel closer to the decisions around the improvement function in respect of how they can improve the delivery of education to the young people in their establishments. That is what these amendments were intended to do.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The text of amendment 318 is that

“The Chief Inspector may work with relevant educational establishments and local authorities to coordinate the support provided to children, young people and their parents in those establishments.”

That is quite clear, and I think that it takes us a step further than the wording in amendment 87, which is that the chief inspector should

“have regard to the desirability of”

collaborative working, because it is a little bit more directive.

Amendment 318 also says that

“The Chief Inspector may prepare and publish guidance on the exercise”

of their functions under this section of the bill. I think that there is scope to provide the flexibility that is needed, as well as to ask or expect the chief inspector to support education authorities and others in the sector as part of their function, which is to improve schools.