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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 May 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Refugees and Asylum Seekers

Meeting date: 10 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you both for that—I found that really helpful.

Could you also talk a bit about the touch points that people have with the system? Are they in the public sector? Are they in housing, or in health? Are they in the third sector? Is it all of the above? I want to get a sense of where we need to ensure the knowledge exists and what kind of network needs to be created.

There has been a cut of approximately £1 million to third sector budgets in the present budget. Do you know anything about the impact that that will have on your sector in continuing to provide support to people who have no recourse to public funds?

I direct that to Lidia Dancu and Andy Sirel.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Refugees and Asylum Seekers

Meeting date: 10 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is really helpful.

I will move on to the approach to services. Will Pinar Aksu comment on the importance of local services, such as libraries, to those with no recourse to public funds? Relying on crisis funds is not a long-term solution; we need to look at a much more structural and systemic solution. However, will you describe the role of services in the absence of public funds?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Refugees and Asylum Seekers

Meeting date: 10 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Lidia Dancu, do you have anything to add?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Refugees and Asylum Seekers

Meeting date: 10 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I will group as much as I can together. My first question is for Pinar Aksu. Last week, Councillor Susan Aitken told the committee that there was no pause on dispersal and that it was a myth that it had been paused. I am conscious of what you said in your submission and what you have told us today. What are your views on Glasgow’s temporary pause on single male asylum seekers? Given that that group makes up the majority of asylum seekers, what impact will that have?

Next, will Pinar Aksu and the Red Cross comment on the use of hotels, and whether you believe that the Scottish Government could do something with the Home Office to reshape how it uses the £1.277 billion that we heard about earlier to put people in better accommodation in Scotland? What could they propose to local authorities on that?

A lot of constituents have contacted us to say that, although the Scottish Government has said that under-22s who are asylum seekers or refugees have access to the free bus system, they cannot access it. Will you tell us why you think that is the case, so that we can help to address the issue?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Refugees and Asylum Seekers

Meeting date: 10 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do, and I will be brief. Thank you for setting that out, Andy. I want to say for the record that that quote from the United Nations is stark. This bill is a new low for us and I hope that it does not pass. Could you briefly set out what we can do in Scotland to ensure that there is access to the support that is available or will need to be available as a result of the bill if it passes? What can we do through our councils or the Government to protect people?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I listened carefully to the cabinet secretary’s answer to the previous question, but I would like to ask a bit more about it, particularly the issue of a public inquiry.

It is the Government’s view that such an inquiry would have to be UK-wide, given that, as has been described, trade union and employment law is reserved. However, having read the public consultation and having heard the evidence from miners as well as from police and others who were involved in the strike, I have to say that the miners’ evidence and the evidence from the police do not really add up, and I feel that the issue of how the strike was policed should be explored a little more. Of course, that will be a devolved matter; indeed, even prior to devolution, regional policing was in operation and decisions on strikes were taken by regional forces in Scotland. Given that, what would be your view on holding a public inquiry on the aspects of the strike that fall within devolved responsibilities?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am not sure that the two things should be mutually exclusive, and I think that some questions need to be asked, particularly in Scotland. It could be helpful to have both.

I was interested in the comment in your opening remarks about the bill not seeking to apportion blame. I find that slightly at odds with the aim of giving a pardon, and I also think that it links to the point about compensation. What are your views on the way in which the strike was policed?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning to you, minister, and to your officials. Thank you for setting that out.

Have you taken account of the numbers in the backlog during the Covid-19 period when considering the number of judges that might be required? Do you think that the proposed number of judges is enough? Have you considered the Lord President’s suggestion that there should be primary legislation to base the maximum number of judges on the number of full-time equivalent judges?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I return to a previous question, in which you were asked about miners who travelled to participate in a picket.

I am interested in your point about convictions of women at the time. Looking at a broader scope for the bill, in order to support people who were convicted not for going to a picket line but for things such as collecting for the strike fund or participating in another way, could perhaps be a method by which women who were involved at the time could be pardoned.

It would also be interesting to broaden the scope of the bill from another perspective. A lot of people right now will look back and think that they would like to have stood in solidarity with the miners. I am one of those people. I was very young at the time of the strikes, but I heard about them and knew what was happening; they were a topic of conversation. I feel that, if we broaden the scope of the bill, we will be saying to people that it is okay to stand in solidarity with others and that they will not have to experience what those people did. That is quite important. I know that Unite the union and the Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen—ASLEF—have both made that suggestion. How might we include in the bill’s scope some of the activity that took place that was not about travelling to picket lines or being on a picket line?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Refugees and Asylum Seekers

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning to the panel members, and thank you for joining us.

I have a few questions about the mechanisms that a number of organisations, including local authorities, have used during the pandemic to support people with no recourse to public funds. For example, that was done through self-isolation support. I am particularly keen to hear more about the public health legislation measures that were used and about how else we could use such mechanisms to support people who have no recourse to public funds.

I have another couple of questions, but I ask COSLA in the first instance, and then possibly Pat Togher, to talk about the examples and mechanisms. After that, I have a couple of follow-up questions.