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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you for that. Professor Sullivan, do you have any comment on that aspect?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Would any proposals in the current draft bill amend section 22 in any way, or would it remain as you have just described?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Can I just check: did you say that someone would not contravene section 22 by collecting data on sex?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

People have presented concerns to us about the risks that are associated with self-identification and the risks to women. We heard some very compelling evidence this morning from the SHRC on that matter. However, I am aware that other countries have introduced self-identification and that it has been in place for some time. For example, Argentina introduced it nearly 10 years ago now. Therefore, as a legislator, I am asking you what other legislatures did about that. How did they navigate that issue?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning. Thank you for your answers to the questions so far, Professor Sullivan, and I thank both panellists for the evidence that they have given ahead of today.

My first question is for Professor Sullivan and it is on data. What have you learned from your research colleagues in parts of the world where self-identification has been in place for some years? What impact have they found that there has been on data collection?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My next question is for both witnesses. Professor Sullivan already touched on this when she mentioned section 22 of the 2004 act. What are your views on how the proposed changes would affect single-sex spaces?

Some people have said that our laws are different and not comparable with those in other parts of the world, because of section 22, on protected information. What is your understanding of the impact of the proposed changes on section 22, and how other countries have handled similar situations?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Are you able to comment on section 22 of the 2004 act in particular?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is fine.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is a pity.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I can see that there will be such circumstances, but I just cannot work out what they might be or why a tribunal would be privy to a piece of information that an individual would not yet know. I get that it could cause the person harm but, in the circumstances of the particular tribunal, I am not sure that I can imagine a reason or rationale for withholding that information.