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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

One point that has been made is the need for PEF to be used for income maximisation. Some examples of how schools are using it across the country are really innovative, and I thank the schools for what they are doing, because it involves really good work.

The cabinet secretary mentioned staff. Does she accept that PEF is being used for staff because core budgets for local authorities—and, therefore, education—are not necessarily adequate for supporting the permanent recruitment of teachers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do not doubt that there is a lot of information that could and should be used. I make the point that the Hayward review made suggestions in that area, which have not necessarily been progressed by the Government.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

When will the next phase be?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That would be helpful. I also want to ask about attendance, which I know we had a conversation about a few minutes ago.

Last week, I met a group of parents of pupils with additional support needs who said that they are seeing a lot of coverage on attendance and the importance of going to school. I agree with that, because it is crucial to be in school to learn. However, the parents said to me that they were not prepared to send their children to school because they felt that their needs were not being met in the classrooms. They felt that the buildings were not suitable for their children, that there were not enough support staff or that they could not see a clear pathway of support for their children and young people to access. On that basis, they felt that it was really difficult to justify sending their children to school.

I want to be really clear that I support children going to school, because it is crucial. However, those parents’ concerns are real. They felt that it was really difficult, but they were taking the difficult decision to not allow their young people to attend. What is the Government’s response to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is fine.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am comparing the most recent data with last year’s data.

I take issue with the point on information over time. The Covid pandemic undoubtedly had an impact, and I have a question specifically on it in a moment. However, in the period before the Covid pandemic, some attainment gap measures were increasing. Do you accept that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I take the point about the wider measures, and the Insight data is really useful. Nonetheless, we are still in a situation in which more school leavers left without any qualifications at all this year.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

If you accept that it has got slightly worse in the past year, what will the Government do about that? What is the plan—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

What is the plan to turn that around so that, next year, there is an improvement rather than regression?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Hello to the officials who have joined us.

In recent years, the attainment gap in relation to leavers’ qualifications has been growing. Can the cabinet secretary set out the drivers for that and how she is going to address it?