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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning to the minister and his officials. I will start on a point of agreement: I completely share the minister’s belief that the UK Government has not done enough to support people during the cost of living crisis.

I am interested in the promotion of education maintenance allowance as a follow-on benefit to the Scottish child payment. I know that it has been touched on already, but can the minister set out what the Government is doing to make that process as automated as it could be—or, indeed, automated entirely?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Although we, in the Scottish Labour Party, obviously welcome the Scottish child payment and the additional money that is being allocated to it—the £5 per week top-up—we share some concerns about the delays to its full roll-out, not just as a result of some of the acute issues that we may see over the next few months with the uptick in applications, but because of the number of years that it has taken for over-sixes to access the payment. I understand that the minister—

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Are there plans to combine the delivery?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Convener, if I combine it with one of the questions that I have on the other theme to be quicker, can I ask a follow-up question? It is a good example of what I was going to ask.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I thank the minister for the answer, but that sounds quite a bit like there is still a reliance on the individual to apply. Is there a reason—that I am not aware of—why there could not be an automatic follow-on?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My apologies, but I need to go because I have another meeting just now. I am sorry, but I am sure that I will hear the feedback.

12:45  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I thank everybody for their contributions so far and for what they have given us in advance, too. The submissions have been really helpful, as always.

First of all, I have a question about the issue of participation, which we have just discussed. Given some of the barriers that we have heard about, how would you characterise your involvement in the budget and the resource spending review? Could Susan McKellar, Allan Faulds, Oonagh Brown and Clare Gallagher answer that briefly?

I know that that is a lot of answerers, but you could be really brief. I am just trying to get a sense of how engaged you guys have been in the budget process or how open it has been to you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That was really helpful. I asked the question, because we heard earlier on about the importance of transparency. Obviously, we have already discussed that issue, but I just wanted to get a feel for where we are at so that the committee can understand the scale of the challenge.

My next question is in the same vein and is about minimum core rights and progressive realisation and what we need to measure in that respect. I know that those are big questions, and we have heard a lot about them this morning. I note that Audit Scotland’s submission highlights a gap between the rights that the Government encourages—or the rights that it says that people have or that it wants people to have—and the reality and that Susan McKellar’s submission talks about women being overlooked. Moreover, evidence from others including the Scottish Commission for People with Learning Disabilities—and, indeed, the letter to the British Institute of Human Rights in 2016—have highlighted some of the problems that we have.

We can look at the budget line for, say, social care and say that there might be more money going into that or into social security. However, we heard this morning from people with learning disabilities who are not even able to choose whom they live with. You can argue that the budget going up represents progressive realisation, but the lived reality does not even represent much of a minimum core, I would say. What do we need to measure and what framework can we use to help us get to a point where we can develop a minimum core and then ask sensible questions about the budget?

I throw that question open to anyone who feels that they want to give it a go.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I know—I am sorry.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is sensible.