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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

No problem.

I want to continue the conversation about volunteers and to pick up on Ben Farrugia’s point about the change in the profile of the people who will be coming through the system.

Police Scotland figures on domestic abuse suggest that there could be an increase in the number of such cases coming through the system—almost three or four times more. What kind of training do panel members currently get on domestic abuse, the trauma-informed approach and coercive control, and what might they need going forward?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have one more question on timing, which is for Ben Farrugia, and a question on training.

We have just heard from Stephen Bermingham that, post-commencement, about 12 to 18 months would be required to get the panel members in position. What sort of timescale would be involved for the number of social workers that is required?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Of course.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that, convener.

With regard to this strategic change, I heard that colleges were considering using the funding to offer voluntary redundancy packages, if necessary. In the absence of that, some colleges have now pursued compulsory redundancies. What is the cabinet secretary’s response to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning, cabinet secretary. Congratulations on taking up your post, and welcome. I wish a good morning to the officials, as well.

In a similar vein, regarding the teachers’ pay settlement, the Government’s reply to the committee last year said:

“We’ve listened to feedback from headteachers about seeking longer term certainty over PEF so, for the first time, we have managed to secure PEF allocations for four years.”

However, the Scottish Government’s evidence to the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee yesterday called that into question. The committee heard that, far from continued certainty, some pupil equity funding will be clawed back to pay for the teachers’ deal. Is that the case?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Does that include in this financial year?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My understanding is that approximately £30 million of the money will be reprofiled to go towards the £80 million that the Government said that it would need to find.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

You also mentioned the additionality that is attached to PEF—you said that schools and local authorities had considered that PEF was additional spending. The report on how that funding has been used was published late last night. There is very little in it about the detail that was asked for on additionality. Are you aware of any local circumstances in which PEF is being used to backfill current core costs?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is why I am concerned, and it is why local people are concerned, about the movement of the £30 million. I appreciate that it can be—as you described it—reprofiled, but, as you are probably aware, because of funding arrangements being based on the financial year or the academic year, it could look as though there could be movement of funding in that some funding that could be used now might be taken back.

Schools have said that they do not think that it is possible to do that, and they are using their funding in a way that relies on its continuing on the longer-term basis that the Government set out last year. I would appreciate your looking into that and making sure that schools, headteachers and local authorities will not feel any detriment from movement of that funding.