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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 15 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you. I might come back to you in a second, but first we will hear from Graham Hutton.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 15 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Could that be done quite quickly?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 15 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Good morning—I think that it still is morning. Thank you for answering our questions so far and for the work that you have put into your report. I will start with questions that are on the same theme that we have already discussed—leadership and reform—and then I will move on to funding. How will the Scottish Government taking responsibility for skills planning bring about the required culture change?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 15 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Good morning, and thank you for the answers that you have given so far. The description that you have given us of education in your areas and the parts that you are responsible for sounds exciting—that is definitely the future that we should be gearing towards.
I want to pick up on a couple of the points that we have heard so far. Graham Hutton, in your opening remarks, you said that the status quo cannot continue, and Pauline Walker mentioned that it was having a significant impact on pupils from poorer backgrounds. Can you tell us what it is about the status quo that is causing the problem for people from poorer or disadvantaged backgrounds? What in the reforms would change that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 15 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
I thank both of you for those comprehensive answers. Do you think that the current reforms will get us to where we need to be?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 15 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
It does—I appreciate that. In a similar vein, do you agree with Universities Scotland that some of the changes that you have suggested, including those that you have just described, can happen without legislative change? What decisions could be taken now around funding work-based learning or upskilling and reskilling, without legislative change?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you for your candour, particularly in your recent answers. There is no greater need than the need to do something about the inequality that Dr Shapira and others made points on. I will move on to that now. As I said to the cabinet secretary yesterday, one reason why I think that reform is so important is that the attainment gap so stubbornly remains.
I have another question before I go into detail on that, although this is related. Is there a risk that, without examination at SCQF level 5, there is more pressure on pupils at highers? Given what you said, Dr Shapira, how will that affect our poorest students?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
No problem. I probably waffled a little bit as well. The specific question is this: is there a risk that, without examination at SCQF level 5, there is more pressure on pupils at highers? What would the impact of that be on poorer students?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Dr Shapira, do you want to come back in?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2023
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you. The interconnectedness of each part of the system and that lifelong linear learning that you described is crucial. Thank you for those answers.
I go back to the point about socioeconomic disadvantage. Dr Shapira, in your paper you note that the curriculum is narrowing and that that is socially stratified and has disproportionately affected students from disadvantaged backgrounds. Why is that? What would you change? How might that be affecting the attainment gap?