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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Did you do any work initially with the DWP to look at the data that it gathers to give intelligence not just for its operations but for the future of forecasting? How much of that did you consider replicating? If you did not replicate it, why did you make those choices?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you expect to get the data? Is it gathered?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The reason why I asked that question is that that felt a little inconsistent with some of the information in the previous conversation about the increases in disability payments and why that would not be seen to be driven through the child winter heating assistance. From our cost of living conversation, it would appear that more people might become eligible for some of the winter heating payments as a result of that situation. However, you are working on the assumption that that will not be the case.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is helpful. Thank you. Those are all the questions that I had on that theme.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you know when those systems will have the information that you need to collect built into them?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I understand that. I can see that, because of the choices that have been made so far. I get that there are countless problems with the DWP and the way in which it does things, not least policy. Can you explain why it was decided not to just lift the technology that the DWP used and apply it to the policy and the specifics for Scotland, instead of completely starting from scratch and facing the situation that you have just described, which is having to shut down the system for the weekend to try to catch up, inevitably continuing to have to bolt on additional bits to IT and having what appears to be a substandard system?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

When the system was set up in Scotland, the Parliament at the time said that it would be fairer. I am slightly concerned about some of the work that I have seen on counterfraud and surveillance. Can you tell us a bit more about the team that you have set up to do that? What sorts of things are you doing? The job description included things such as covert surveillance, which made me quite uncomfortable. Could you tell me a little bit about that? Also, how much are you spending on the counterfraud surveillance work?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

At the moment, are you relying on data that is not published?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

What evidence do you have of that kind of fraud and the likelihood of it happening?

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 19 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you for that.

With regard to the concerns that you and others have raised and to help to ensure that public bodies, for example, in Scotland both deliver the reform of the gender recognition process that we know that trans people need and understand their responsibilities to women and girls under the Equality Act 2010, do you believe that the Scottish Government should introduce guidance to give clear advice to public bodies and the wider public on how they act and operate?