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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 24 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you, convener, and good morning to our panel. Thank you for joining us and for the evidence that you have submitted to the committee in relation to the budget process.

I have a couple of questions about accessibility, the first of which is for Rob Watts. The Scottish Government said in its response to our letter that it has worked hard to make the “Equality and Fairer Scotland Budget Statement” “deliberately accessible”. Can you see that in the budget, and is that enough?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 24 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It would be helpful if Angela O’Hagan could comment specifically on what the Scottish Women’s Convention said about women being overlooked in that part of the process.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning to the cabinet secretary and her officials.

In the Government’s response to the committee’s pre-budget report, it recognised that employability support plays an important role in tacking child poverty. We are, of course, conducting an inquiry into that. Will the cabinet secretary set out what she believes the consequences of the reduction in funding for employability support this year will be?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I will extend the conversation that we have just had about fair work, which colleagues have already mentioned. It is, of course, welcome that the fair work criteria are being extended to cover all staff who are engaged in grant-funded activity. However, the voluntary sector is really struggling; I know—or believe—that the cabinet secretary understands that. How will the Scottish Government support its departments and local government to resource voluntary organisations through grants so that they can pay at least the real living wage?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I thank the cabinet secretary for that answer, but I find it difficult not to come to the conclusion that, in effect, that means that, although the Scottish Government says that it supports—as we do—fair work, third sector organisations will have to make cuts, which feels disappointing. I understand the context that we are in but, as the cabinet secretary rightly pointed out, during the pandemic, those organisations did not just create flexibility but stepped up to the front line when others could not. I therefore urge the cabinet secretary to commit to resourcing the demands that she and her Government make of third sector organisations, so that they can meet those demands.

I have one point on long-term funding. Can the cabinet secretary set out the timescale that she is working to for delivering multiyear funding? Will she determine multiyear funding as a three-year minimum commitment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you—I appreciate that, and I do not doubt that there are strong lines of communication. It would be helpful, however, if those lines were more in the public domain. If it is possible to get a commitment to encourage Social Security Scotland to do that, it would be helpful. Are you able to do that, cabinet secretary?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you for that answer. Do you know when it will become the default rather than the exception?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have one more question, and I will be brief. Yesterday, I met representatives from the Partick Thistle Charitable Trust’s accepting activity group, who said that the financial support that they get has underestimated their energy costs by hundreds of thousands of pounds. From evidence that has been given to the committee, we know that a number of third sector organisations are in just as much financial difficulty as the people they are supporting, as a result of the cost of living, and they do not believe that the funding support has taken account of that insecurity.

Does the cabinet secretary intend to introduce any cost of living measures that would help organisations to meet those costs? What can I tell the Partick Thistle Charitable Trust and others about whether there is an intention to increase the offer to those organisations to account for the rise in their operational costs?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I want to follow on from what my colleague Jeremy Balfour asked about. David Wallace said in committee a few weeks ago that hitting the 10-day figure was going to be a challenge. It feels like having that figure is meaningless if we are not going to meet it. I wonder what further work you can do to help us to get to a position in which it can be met.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you, cabinet secretary. That would be appreciated.

I understand that there was a significant response to the widening of the eligibility. We cannot be surprised at that, given that the group of people who were applying for the payment at that point had been entitled to it for a number of years but had not been able to access it. I am not surprised at the scale of interest. I hope that the cabinet secretary and Social Security Scotland were not surprised either that that was factored into the announcement in November and that the roll-out was planned properly.

Will you hit the child poverty targets, cabinet secretary?