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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 November 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

I am sure that we can incorporate those comments. As there are no further comments from members, the committee has the following options. It can write to the Scottish Government approving its proposal to consent to the statutory instrument and highlighting any related comments or concerns, or it can write to the Scottish Government rejecting the proposal. Am I right to conclude from what I have heard that Gillian Mackay’s position is that the provision should not be made at all?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

Do members have any final questions?

Members indicated disagreement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

There will be a division.

For

Joe FitzPatrick (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con)
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP)
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen) (SNP)
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab)
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab)
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP)
Elena Whitham (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con)

Against

Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green)

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

The result of the division is: For 9, Against 1, Abstentions 0.

We will write to the Scottish Government approving the statutory instrument with the caveats that were outlined by members.

I briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a change of panel members.

09:40 Meeting suspended.  

09:43 On resuming—  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

Do any other members of the panel have a view on that provision? No.

Should there be a narrower definition of what a terminal illness is for the purposes of the bill? A prognostic timescale could be included or the bill could specify that a condition must be untreatable, for example.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

Are there any other comments on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

Good morning, and welcome to the second meeting of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee in 2025. Unfortunately, the convener is unable to attend today’s meeting in person and will be joining us online. As deputy convener, I will convene the meeting in her absence. I have received no apologies for the meeting.

Our first agenda item is on United Kingdom subordinate legislation. We will take evidence on a consent notification on the Food and Feed (Regulated Products) (Amendment, Revocation, Consequential and Transitional Provision) Regulations 2025. This is a UK statutory instrument on which the UK Government is seeking the Scottish Government’s consent to legislate in areas of devolved competence. The committee’s role is to decide whether it agrees with the Scottish Government’s proposal to consent to the UK Government making the regulations within devolved competence and in the manner that the UK Government has indicated to the Scottish Government.

At our previous meeting, we considered the notification and agreed to invite the Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health to give evidence today. We have until tomorrow, 22 January, to respond to the Scottish Government’s notification, which we will do immediately after this morning’s evidence session. I therefore invite members to debate and decide how they wish to respond in a letter to the Scottish Government.

I welcome to the committee Jenni Minto, the Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health; Georgina Finch, who is a senior policy adviser at Food Standards Scotland; Neel Mojee, who is a lawyer for the Scottish Government; and Greig Walker, who is project lead on constitution and UK relations at the Scottish Government. I thank you for joining us.

Before we move on to questions, minister, I believe that you would like to make a brief opening statement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

Has anyone considered how a narrow definition would work in relation to existing social security definitions, or the impact that that might have on access to benefits at the end of life?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

I thank the witnesses for attending the committee and for answering our questions so fully. Our next meeting will be a week today, when we will continue our stage 1 scrutiny of the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill with evidence on law enforcement considerations, followed by an evidence-taking session with the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care.

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

12:15 Meeting continued in private until 12:34.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Paul Sweeney

I go back to a point that was raised earlier on autonomy. Do the witnesses recognise that, for some individuals, there might be some therapeutic value and comfort in having the option of assisted dying available, even though they might ultimately not use it? Simply having the option available to them as a safeguard against their fear of pain and the progression of their condition might well provide them with some degree of comfort. Is that something that you might want to consider or reflect on?