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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Can you see that there is a difference? The parliamentary calendar works for those who want to attend or observe Christian holidays, but it does not work in the same way for other religions.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Okay.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

I want to go back to the processes that are in place at the moment. In the course of the committee’s evidence sessions, many suggestions have been made about how to handle the situation. There is the idea of a regional by-election, which we have discussed. Other witnesses have said that if recall triggers are met by a regional MSP, they should automatically be disqualified and replaced by the next person on the list. What are your thoughts on those proposals? Are you likely to consider changes to that process for stage 2?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

In the bill, there is currently a two-step process for regional members in which people would first have to sign a recall petition and then there would be a yes or no ballot on whether to remove the member. A suggestion has been made to put those steps together into a one-step process, which would mean that electors would have the opportunity to say yes or no from the beginning. There have been suggestions that that might improve secrecy around the recall petition. If you go to sign a recall petition, everybody knows that you are going to try to remove that MSP. There is no option to turn up and support them. What are your thoughts on that proposal?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

You are talking about fairness and saying that if we do something on the constituency side it should happen on the regional side. Currently, the bill provides for a by-election on the constituency side in which the recalled member can stand but not one on the regional side. If you had a one-step process on both sides, they would be closer to each other than the current proposal.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

There is the regional list. The way that those people who are elected from the regional list is calculated is partly based on the constituency elections—the overall calculation takes into consideration each constituency. If the goal is simply to hold individuals to account for their conduct, should we be looking at retaining the proportionality and providing the parity between the two systems that you are looking for?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

There would be no by-election if that happened on the regional side.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Absolutely. The question that I asked earlier about replacing constituency recallees with a member of their own party was about precisely that concern about retaining the proportionality of the overall Parliament.

Thinking about the bill as it stands and the system that it is working in, I have previously raised with witnesses the fact that, if a regional MSP faces a recall petition but is successful in being returned, their party would, under the current system, need to sign off on that and provide a nomination certificate. Do you think that parties would be required to do that? They might also have an issue with the individual who got returned through their party list.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

In such a case, would you force the party to sign off on that?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

The evidence that we have gathered so far is that it is quite complex. We have rarely been at a point at which witnesses have agreed on the way forward. We have even had people change their minds while they were sitting in front of the committee.