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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 March 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

We now go online to Fulton MacGregor. [Interruption.]

We are having a technical pause.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

It is great that you are pulling in the housing to 2040 board and various people to support the process. There is a housing emergency delivery action and assurance group. Is that one of the groups that you mentioned, or is it separate? If it is separate, what is its role?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

I come back to your point about relieving the pressure, particularly relating to children in temporary accommodation. The committee would welcome updates on that. It would be helpful to be kept abreast of that, move along with you on that journey and understand the concern about people in temporary accommodation, particularly young people.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

That sounds good. If a temporary place could become a permanent home, it could be a way to reduce the unsettling nature of having to move on.

We move to the topic of housing supply and investment.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is helpful. In my experience, when somebody gets a new post, it is good to get in early and get the priority thing lodged in their mind. Meghan Gallacher has a supplementary question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

You talked about the opportunity with heat networks and, in a previous answer, about the importance of community ownership of renewable energy. I know that the idea of communities owning heat networks is quite strong. Are you taking it into consideration as you think about the bill? Although it is perhaps not part of the bill, the opportunity for communities to own heat networks seems to be another way to build community wealth.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is it on heat in buildings. Thanks for your answers on that. We will move on to other questions, which I will run through. The first few are on dampness and mould regulations and other regulations coming out of the Housing (Scotland) Bill. I would be interested to get a sense from you on the anticipated timings for the regulations that will come to us in order to implement Awaab’s law for rented housing.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

Certainly. That leads on to the next point that I wanted to raise. What prompted the Government to launch the open call at this stage in the process—I guess that that is part of the expansion that you talked about—and what information does the Government hold on buildings with potentially flammable cladding? We would be particularly interested in the data provided by the 2021 inventory of high-rise buildings and the subsequent evidence that was gathered.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is an evidence-taking session from Màiri McAllan, the Cabinet Secretary for Housing, on the progress of the Scottish Government’s cladding remediation programme and on her portfolio’s priorities. I welcome her warmly to her role. It is good to have her in our committee room, and we look forward to our conversation today.

Ms McAllan is joined by three Scottish Government officials: Matthew Elsby, deputy director of the better homes division; Stephen Lea-Ross, director of cladding remediation; and Jess Niven, interim deputy director of heat in buildings policy and regulation. I welcome them all to the meeting.

We will go straight to questions, and I will start. Members have a number of questions and interests, but the initial set of questions will focus on the cladding remediation programme. The pilot phase of that programme was launched in 2021 and I would be interested to understand whether that has now ended, what the results of the pilot were and what lessons have been learned to inform future action.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

It was a very helpful answer, and it brings to mind an issue that the committee as a whole has been exploring since it first came up in one of our first sessions on cladding. You said that the responsibility for dealing with RAAC lies with the home owner—the differentiation that you made in that respect was helpful.

I can imagine that home owners do not necessarily know what their homes are made of. We have been discussing in the committee whether we need to get something set up so that people will know not necessarily the tiny details that go into homes but the general products. It would be something to ensure that, when people buy a home, they know what they are buying and whether there is RAAC in it or it is clad in a particular material. That would let people start to understand that they are not just buying a home but they need to maintain and operate it in a particular way because of the materials that are involved.

That is a different way of looking at a home. Many people are used to just buying a home and living in it, but we are moving in a new direction in which we are exploring things such as the Passivhaus approach. The point that is coming up is that we need to learn how to maintain and operate homes—not just to clean the gutters but to understand in a bit more detail what we are living in. Do you have any thoughts on that?