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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 March 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much, both of you. You have certainly been doing some very thorough work, especially during the pandemic, when activity has been restricted.

I am aware that the consultation is still running, but several stakeholders have questioned the Scottish Government’s running a consultation on the draft NPF4 during the 120-day period of parliamentary scrutiny. You can imagine that that does throw up some challenges. Can you explain to the committee the Scottish Government’s interpretation of the Planning (Scotland) Act 2019 in that regard?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that response. We will now move on to a question from Mark Griffin.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

I will continue on that theme. I have heard some concerns about the way in which housing development happens in communities. Developers own land and, as I understand it, the local planning department puts out a call for land—the generosity element that we have spoken about. People have raised with me that, until recently, we had not realised how important it is to protect our peatland and—as we move forward, given that we want to shorten our supply chains and grow more food locally—how important our farmland, of which there is a limited supply, will be.

What do we do about situations in which developers have land that would, in the long run, given the just transition and the shift to doing things more locally, be better for farming or better as protected land than it would be for being built on? How do we handle that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

Andy—your microphone is too close to your mouth.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

For my final question, I want to follow on from Mark Griffin’s earlier question about the process of monitoring and reviewing the NPF. What can trigger a review before the 10 years are up?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

We move on to questions from Meghan Gallacher.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that. That is important, because we are creating a document that, although it is somewhat evidence-based, is also abstract with a lot of changing contexts in relation to the climate and nature emergencies. It is therefore good to hear that there is potential flexibility and that reviewing is considered to be an important part of that.

That ends our questions. Thank you very much for joining us. It has been helpful to hear the thinking behind how the complex document came into being, and to hear what you have laid out about how, from the beginning, so many different stakeholders were engaged in the process. It has been very useful evidence.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

As agreed, as part of our approach to NPF4 we will now consider in private the evidence that we have just heard.

11:36 Meeting continued in private until 11:57.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

We have already touched on housing, but we will now shift the focus on to that issue.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

I call Miles Briggs.