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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 October 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Elected Office (Barriers)

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

The fourth agenda item is to take evidence as part of the committee’s inquiry into understanding barriers to elected office. We will take evidence from three panels. We want to find ways of supporting the promotion of more diverse local representation, identify the barriers to that and find ways of dismantling those barriers. Every sector of our communities should be represented at the decision-making table. As Councillor Alison Evison said previously,

“when that is the case, we can really see the difference that it can make.”—[Official Report, Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee, 7 September; c 21.]

I welcome Councillor Evison, who is the president of the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; Alexis Camble, who is the policy and participation officer for equalities and is also from COSLA; Sarah Gadsden, who is the chief executive of the Improvement Service; and Laura Hutchison, who is the principal of the compliance team Scotland at the Equality and Human Rights Commission Scotland. Thank you for joining us. We will move straight to questions. For those of you who are joining us remotely on BlueJeans, please put an R in the chat box to indicate that you wish to respond to a question or contribute to the discussion.

Given that the McIntosh commission in 1999 and the Local Government Committee in 2000 highlighted a lack of diversity in local representation, why has progress been so slow? We will start with Councillor Evison.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Elected Office (Barriers)

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that. It is clear that we need to work together. As you mentioned, after 20 years there is still a lack of diversity. Can you point to why progress has been so slow?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Elected Office (Barriers)

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

Willie Coffey has another question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Elected Office (Barriers)

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

I think that Junaid Ashraf wants to come in on the question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Elected Office (Barriers)

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

Welcome back. We will continue taking evidence on barriers to elected office. I welcome our third and final panel: James Kelly is the general secretary of the Scottish Labour Party; Louise McAllister is councillor for the Ellon and District ward in Aberdeenshire; Roslyn MacPherson is a former council candidate from the Western Isles; Councillor Kelly Parry is the local government convener of the Scottish National Party; Sheila Ritchie is the convener of the Scottish Liberal Democrats; and Councillor Cameron Rose is from the Southside/Newington ward in Edinburgh. I thank them all for joining us.

If witnesses wish to respond to a question or contribute to a discussion, they should put an R in the chat box. Please try to be succinct in your responses. Time is against us. We want to hear from everyone and we have quite a few questions. We might direct specific questions to someone in particular if that will be more relevant.

I will start with a question that could take us all day. Despite that risk, I would like the witnesses to tell us how and why they became involved in local politics. The person who answers first may have a harder time. Please think about the key moment that brought you in and made you realise that this was something that you wanted to engage in.

I am looking at the order in which I called the names. James Kelly, could you make a start?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Elected Office (Barriers)

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

I do not want to put you on the spot, but are you willing to tell us how much you get paid as a councillor? Moreover—and I know that it is difficult to speak for yourself on this issue—what do you think we should be looking at as the right level of remuneration for the work that you do?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Elected Office (Barriers)

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

Yes, I think that you have. Thank you very much—thanks to all three of you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Elected Office (Barriers)

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that, Councillor Parry. I will call a stack of the other councillors and bring in Roslyn MacPherson as well.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Elected Office (Barriers)

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for your responses and for rounding off the panel session.

I thank our witnesses very much for making time to be with us. I am sorry that the schedule got a little shifted. Your responses have been very helpful in giving us perspectives from the lived experience of political parties and beyond.

As I said earlier, this session is one of several that we hope to carry out. I hope that, in the next sessions, we can start to move towards the kinds of concrete actions we can take.

I will suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses to leave.

12:40 Meeting suspended.  

12:42 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Act 2021

Meeting date: 23 November 2021

Ariane Burgess

Item 5 is consideration of the Scottish Government’s draft policy statement and draft annual report on the use of the keeping-pace power that is conferred on the Scottish Government by the UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Act 2021. The Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee has shared the documents with subject committees for comment, and it has invited us to submit comments to the Scottish Government. Do members have comments on the draft policy statement and the draft annual report?