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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
Does Dawn Roberts want to come in?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
There is no need to apologise. It is always good to uncover other perspectives. Mark Griffin has another question.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
Yes, if witnesses keep their answer brief.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
That concludes today’s evidence session. Thank you all for coming. It has been good to get your perspectives on the situation in relation to housing and homelessness, and that has added another layer to the evidence. We will be taking further evidence on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill at our next meeting on 15 November.
As we agreed at the start of the meeting, we will take the next two items on our agenda in private. We have no more public business today.
12:42 Meeting continued in private until 12:57.Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
Good morning and welcome to the 27th meeting of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee in 2022. I ask all members and witnesses to ensure that their mobile phones are on silent and that all other notifications are turned off.
The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree?
Members indicated agreement.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
That is very helpful. We should be aware of the point about the financial memorandum being old, with a lot having happened since it was published.
I will bring in Eddie Fraser.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
I will move on to the role of local authorities. Should care services continue to be delivered by local authorities? If so, could you expand on the benefits and challenges of the current system? I would be interested to hear whether anyone has any experience in relation to rural and island local authorities.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
That concludes our questions for this panel. I thank all the witnesses for coming to speak with us, sharing their important evidence and responding to our questions.
I suspend the meeting briefly, to allow for a change of witnesses.
10:40 Meeting suspended.Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
Our second panel of witnesses focuses on local authorities. We are joined online by Douglas Hendry, executive director, Argyll and Bute Council, and in the room by Eddie Fraser, chief executive, East Ayrshire Council; Michelle McGinty, head of corporate policy and governance, Glasgow City Council; Paula McLeay, head of policy and insight, Edinburgh City Council; and Dr Dawn Roberts, chief executive, Dumfries and Galloway Council.
I will begin the questions. I am interested to know whether witnesses agree with the Feeley review that the Covid pandemic
“has demonstrated clearly that the Scottish public expect national accountability for adult social care support and look to Scottish Ministers to provide that accountability.”
I open that up to everybody.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 8 November 2022
Ariane Burgess
Thank you.
Again, this question is for everyone, but there will be questions coming that might be focused on specific areas. I am interested in how much individual councils currently spend on social care, how that has changed over the past decade, and whether there have been changes in outcomes for communities and service users as a result of increased or decreased spending.