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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
The question is, that motion S6M-07703 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members: No.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
Annie Wells also joins us online.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
Not at all. I just wanted to ask the question.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
We move on to our final theme, which is leadership and the role of the Scottish Government and Audit Scotland.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
I have been given the task of opening the theme of nature and climate. You have all touched on that to a degree, and it is heartening to hear the enthusiasm and keenness to move in that direction. The issue lies in the detail of how we get there.
I will open with two questions. Please come in even if you do not feel that these questions frame what you want to say. The first is about the landscape-scale approach, which Andrew Midgley spoke about. The other is more about organics, which Ross Paton spoke about. Let me frame those points.
It is clear that we need to consider the landscape-scale approach. I recently had a conversation with a young farmer who is working on 70 acres of upland, and they were saying that the farmers there are now working together as a group. Lots of farmers around the farm are coming together and considering that approach, from the top of the mountain all the way down to the river and the riparian edge. They are considering the importance of that, but also the difficulties of co-ordination and time. I wanted to articulate that, because we need to think about landscape scale not just as one large estate doing its own landscape scale but with regard to how we get collaboration. I will throw that question to Andrew Midgley first.
After that, I would love to hear more from Ross Paton, who talked about the fact that organics need to be mainstreamed and said that those are the criteria through which the Government can meet climate targets and provide a biodiversity response. However, I see that different targets are being proposed. LINK is calling for a target of 10 per cent, and Nourish Scotland is talking about the EU average of 25 per cent. Is there a likelihood that we can reach that? I know that we cannot do it in this parliamentary session, which is why we have only the small doubling of organics—it is because there is not enough in the pipeline, so to speak. However, looking to the next parliamentary session, what do we need to do now with farms and farmers so that, in session 7, we have a much bigger commitment to organics?
Please can we start with landscape scale and then move on to organics? I welcome comments from anyone else on that. We might go quite a bit over time, but please keep your answers succinct.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
Can you give a sense of what that bigger proportion of the budget should be, just so that we can have clarity on that?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
That is helpful.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thanks. I have an additional question. You have all talked about the need to retrofit your existing housing stock, and Carolyn and Mike have mentioned the need for UK Government support with regard to pre-payment meters. However, it has come to the committee before—we might even have been in conversations on this—that retrofitting property attracts 20 per cent VAT. You might not have the figures off the top of your head, but 20 per cent VAT on top of anything that you are paying for a retrofit is a big amount to add to the bill for that work. I am interested in your thoughts on that issue. What could we be doing? Working out how we might get the UK Government to open up and review VAT on retrofitting is a piece of work that the committee is considering.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
That brings us to the end of our questions. I appreciate the evidence that has been given today. I have circled in my notebook “whole housing cost columns”. That has sunk in, and that is a good thing that we need to take on board. We need to take on board everything that we have heard today.
I suspend the meeting so that the witnesses can leave.
12:25 Meeting suspended.Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Ariane Burgess
The final public item on our agenda today is to consider our approach to the continued petition PE1778, which calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to review the Scottish landlord register scheme. It is suggested that we ask the Scottish Government for sight of the draft statutory guidance and for a summary of the changes that it makes to the landlord registration scheme, in order to determine whether that addresses the concerns of the petitioners. Do members agree to the suggested action?
Members indicated agreement.