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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 October 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for flagging up the species list; that sounds like an onerous task. I turn to Robbie Kernahan. I do not know whether I need to recap my question, but it picked up on Chief Superintendent Flynn’s statements that many terms

“have to be defined better”

and that

“the licensing provisions have to be specified and fleshed out if NatureScot is to have a reasonable chance of doing a good licensing job.”—[Official Report, Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee, 15 June 2022; c 11.]

Could you talk about the clarity in those exceptions?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

It is great when you get specific like that. Thanks very much. I will turn to the environmental benefit exceptions. Michael Clancy has touched on the specifics of the species list, but some witnesses, notably RSPB Scotland and Scottish Badgers, have in written evidence questioned the need for the exception and licences in connection to environmental benefit, and the League Against Cruel Sports highlighted the concern, which is shared by many, that that exception will be exploited and used as a smokescreen for traditional hunting with dogs. If we retain that exception and licensing scheme, do you believe that those sections would benefit from clearer definitions of terms such as

“significant or long-term environmental benefit”

and from guidance on how to determine whether each case meets those criteria?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Aquaculture Regulatory Review

Meeting date: 22 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

Professor Griggs, I am joining the meeting virtually and am very sorry that I cannot be with you in person today. I was interested to hear your perspective on community. I thank you for doing all that work.

I have been speaking to coastal communities as well—I speak to people who earn their living by catching crabs and lobsters. The coast is where people in those communities swim, where their children play and where tourists, who also bring money into the local economy, come to enjoy diving and water sports. It is interesting that you were talking about who the community is. Some people do not want fish farms even if they would receive payment, because many of them would see that as being bought off.

You have recommended a single consenting document, but that seems not to include a mechanism for communities to reject the imposition of a new or expanded industrial fish farm in their local waters. I would like to hear your thoughts on the principle that coastal communities should have a say in where fish farms are located.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

I am sorry; you are right. Marie McNair will ask those questions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

I will bring in Paul McLennan to ask questions on longer-term financial sustainability and the impact of budget changes on individual services.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

Does Carol Calder want to come in on that? I see that Willie Coffey wants to come in on the general theme.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

It is a work in progress. Thanks, Willie, for that question.

We have come to the end of our questions, but I want to hand back to Bill Moyes. Do you have any closing comments? Maybe we have not covered something that you want to highlight. I would love to give you time to do that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for underscoring that. That point certainly did come out in the session.

It has been a really rich discussion. I am glad that we have this relationship with the Accounts Commission and that we are going to be seeing you at least annually. I find that the overview reports are very helpful for us to understand what is happening in local authorities. I have also been finding local authority reports for my region very useful.

I thank all of you who have taken part today and helped us to understand more of what is going on at a deeper level.

As that is the last of the public items on our agenda, I close the public part of the meeting.

10:57 Meeting continued in private until 11:29.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

The first item on our agenda today is to decide whether to take item 3 in private. Item 3 is an opportunity for us to consider the evidence we have heard from the Accounts Commission. Are we all agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you, Antony. That is really helpful and I am sure, as you have said, that more will come out with other questions that we are going to ask you. I want to ask a bit about the Accounts Commission and its relationship with the new cohort of councillors, so I will come back to Bill Moyes initially.

I am curious to know what engagement the Accounts Commission has had so far with the new cohort. For example, are training or seminars provided for new councillors, particularly those who have specific finance remits?