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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
We are joined by our second panel of witnesses. I welcome Tom Arthur, the Minister for Community Wealth and Public Finance, who is supported by three Scottish Government officials: Ninian Christie, who is a solicitor in the Scottish Government legal directorate; Alisdair Grahame, who is a policy adviser in the local government and analytical services division; and Ben Haynes, who is the bill team leader for the Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill.
Before we move to questions from members, I invite Mr Arthur to make a short opening statement.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thank you for that. To continue the theme of concerns that have been raised by business groups, one company told us that the bill appears to be offering “localism for localism’s sake”. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the concern that the proposal for local flexibility and variations might lead to confusion and complexity for customers and businesses.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
I wish to return to the point about the flat rate and the percentage rate. Something interesting came up with COSLA, in our previous panel, involving a request for ultimate flexibility and the ability to choose a flat rate or a percentage rate at the local level. I take your and others’ point that we are trying to create something that is user-friendly, simple, efficient and so on.
COSLA said that there are on-going discussions in quite a number of areas, but I wonder whether there has been discussion of the potential for an information technology platform for the process of calculating, collecting and auditing. If one local authority went for a flat rate and another went for a percentage, a digital IT platform could take the difficulty out of that. COSLA mentioned that it is exploring that with its digital IT team. Has the expert working group had any discussions about exploring the possibility of using IT to help us in that way?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
I call Miles Briggs.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
I appreciate you all coming this morning. Thank you so much, minister, for your thorough and in-depth responses. I get a sense that there are some areas where our questions have shown that more work needs to be done. It will be interesting for us to consider that in our report and to reflect that back to you.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thanks very much for those responses. We are obviously very concerned about the relationship with local authorities.
I call Willie Coffey.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
Yes.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thank you, minister, for bearing with us on the line of questioning. I will bring in Marie McNair with a question on the long-term plans for council tax.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thank you. We previously agreed to take the next items in private, so I close the public part of the meeting.
11:38 Meeting continued in private until 12:08.Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 14 November 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thank you.
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