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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
I welcome our witnesses back to the meeting.
We turn to questions on the housing to 2040 strategy and I will begin with a broad question about the vision. We heard at our round-table sessions that, broadly speaking, people really appreciate the vision, but I would be interested to hear what you think needs to be put in place to deliver it. After all, concerns were raised about the lack of a delivery plan and the lack of indicators to measure the strategy’s success. Moreover, what is the role for the national performance framework in delivering on the strategy? At the moment, housing is not even mentioned in the national planning framework.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
And what about the national performance framework?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
Great—thanks for that.
I just want to go into a bit of detail. Among the key measures that the housing to 2040 strategy intends to cover are decarbonising heat in homes, which we touched on in the previous evidence session, and tackling the high rents in the private sector, which your colleague Patrick Harvie is working on. Another key measure is
“a single set of standards”
for housing quality and accessibility. Where is that work at this time?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
It has been interesting to hear about the work of the housing investment task force and its potential. You also mentioned a number of times the work of Professor Ken Gibb. One of the things that he brought up in the round-table discussion that he attended was a concern about the ambition of the housing to 2040 policy to de-speculate the housing market. How do you keep that in mind? To what extent has the housing to 2040 strategy group discussed that? At the heart of everything that we are talking about is the speculative aspect that has entered the market. How do we move away from that and get to a position in which Scotland is providing homes for people?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
Good. Mark Griffin and Stephanie Callaghan have supplementary questions.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
Good morning, and welcome to the 11th meeting in 2024 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are in silent mode.
We have received apologies from Willie Coffey and Gordon MacDonald. Colin Beattie is attending the meeting as a Scottish National Party substitute member. I welcome Colin to the meeting and invite him to declare any relevant interests.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
The next item on our agenda is to decide whether to take items 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
It is good to hear that that is being considered.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
I will bring in Stephanie Callaghan next.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Ariane Burgess
It is heartening to hear that more local authorities are taking on empty homes officers.
Before we end this part of our question session, I will come back to the Scottish house condition survey. Our papers note that ALACHO is concerned about the house condition survey data not being of sufficient quality to provide a true picture of the quality of Scotland’s houses. I raise that because of my experience of issues around damp and mould in my region and the seemingly low numbers that we are getting. I am concerned that, if we do not get a strong picture of the quality of Scotland’s houses, we will face issues down the line that are worse to deal with, including health issues.
What is your view on that? What could the Scottish Government do to make the Scottish housing condition survey more robust, so that it gives us a true picture that will enable us to serve people in Scotland and ensure that their homes are fit to live in?