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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 November 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that. If no one else has anything that really must be put on record, I am going to move on. We still have quite a lot to get through, although we are beginning to touch on some of the other topics.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks. I am checking to see whether anyone else online wants to come in. It has been helpful that a number of witnesses have said that you are working on local tourism strategies, so the levy will not just arrive in a vacuum because you already have relationships and partnership working, and you have strategies on which discussions have been on-going. That is a really useful insight.

I will bring in Mark Griffin.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks, Willie, for that question, which was interesting and brought up more thinking. Both sides have food for thought on this.

This has been a very useful conversation. I thank the witnesses for joining us today, online and in person. I briefly suspend the meeting to allow a changeover of witnesses.

10:52 Meeting suspended.  

11:00 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Good morning and welcome to the 25th meeting in 2023 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent and that all other notifications are turned off during the meeting. The first item on the agenda is to decide whether to take item 4 in private. Is everyone content to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

The committee has previously agreed to take item 3 in private.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. I will add another question, which Morag Johnston touched on already and others can respond to. I am interested to hear whether the City of Edinburgh Council has done any analysis of the possible economic impacts of a visitor levy. How do you respond to the statements made in last week’s evidence session that a visitor levy will lead to fewer tourists, less spend, reputational damage for Scotland’s industry and lost competitiveness?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Great; thanks very much for that. Bill Lobban has indicated that he wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Okay. Other members might well draw that out in their questions. I call Pam Gosal, who has a supplementary.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Yes, and it is great news that the Scottish Government is going to look at bringing cruise ship passengers into the bill if it can get the consultation and all the work done in time. There is a keenness not to hold up the bill and to see it come through. Does anybody else have thoughts about day trippers, wild campers or motorhomes?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much—that is interesting.

Before I bring in Mark Griffin, I want to come back to Paul Lawrence. The City of Edinburgh Council has laid down strongly that it is keen to have a percentage fee. You have acknowledged that you have a considerable number of small businesses and microbusinesses. How would that system work for them? One concern that has come up is that the percentage approach makes calculating the fee more onerous. In your analysis, have you looked at systems that could be given to such businesses to support them?